Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients

Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients

Legendary Creature — Dragon Barbarian

Enrage — Whenever this is dealt damage, you may create a 5/4 red and green Dragon Spirit creature token with "When this creature deals damage, sacrifice it."

Whenever you roll one or more dice, you may have this deal 1 damage to itself.

Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients Discussion

multimedia on Tiamight

3 hours ago

Hey, nice version, solid deck building on a budget. Looks like you got the Draconic Rage Commander precon and upgraded it to Tiamat?

Some budget Dragon upgrades to consider:

Savage Ventmaw + Hellkite Charger is a budget way with Dragons to have many extra attacks. When each of these Dragons attacks both trigger at the same time and you can choose the order these triggers resolve. First resolve Ventmaw to make six mana then resolve Charger and use the six mana + one other mana to pay for an extra attack and repeat. These two let you have a number of extra attacks equal to the amount of mana you have which can be a lot of attacks. Add Dragonborn Champion to draw a lot of cards.


Some budget other spell upgrades to consider:

Crux of Fate is a very powerful for Dragons in multiplayer Commander since it can wreck all your opponents creatures leaving you unscathed to attack. Temur Ascendancy has two repeatable effects that are great with Dragons: a haste enabler and repeatable draw whenever a Dragon ETB. Patriarch's Bidding is a powerful budget tribal card since it reanimates all Dragons in your graveyard for five mana. Seasons Past is any card recursion which you don't have any. Use Seasons Past with Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient to potentially cast all the cards you got back.


Some other upgrades to consider:

Tyrite Sanctum can be a repeatable way to put a +1/+1 counter on a legendary creature you control. Use Tyrite with Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients to first make him a God and then make him indestructible for unlimited enrage.

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on I Have Not Yet Begun To Fight

2 weeks ago

Hey, nice version so far with a high budget. Cutting Garruk's Uprising was a mistake, the card is really good in creature decks.

Apex Altisaur and Thorn Mammoth are upgrades for Ravager Wurm and Foe-Razer Regent for repeatable fight. You don't really need Regent since you have Vigor which has a much better ability to put counters on creatures you control. Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients from the new Draconic Rage Commander precon is a target for fight and good with Vigor. He can also be a repeatable source of big tokens to abuse Greater Good, Terror of the Peaks and Garruk's Uprising.

Quartzwood Crasher is a five drop to pair with Garruk's Uprising, another repeatable source of big tokens and it's combat damage trigger goes well when you can double the power of a creature with trample. Garruk, Primal Hunter and Garruk, Unleashed can be repeatable sources of tokens for attacking and fighting. With fight it's easier to protect them to get to their ultimates.

Arcane Signet is a ramp upgrade for Rampant Growth. Harrow is an upgrade for Kodama's Reach. Karplusan Forest, Grove of the Burnwillows, Cragcrown Pathway  Flip are three more Gruul dual lands that always ETB untapped to consider adding. Cinder Glade is an upgrade for Temple of Abandon.


Some cards to consider cutting:

Good luck with your deck.

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Monkey Paw

3 weeks ago

This seems actually pretty decent in a deck that cares about discarding and has some lifegain. Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar would propably play it. Also somewhat interesting for Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients.

multimedia on Tiamat Commander

1 month ago

Hey, it looks like you got a bundle of Adventures in the Forgotten Realms (AFR) and used all the cards you got in it for this deck. If the only cards you have are from AFR then you have done well to make an actual deck with them, but if you have cards from other sets such as more Dragons then those cards would better fit in a deck with Tiamat as Commander.

My advice is consider buying the Draconic Rage precon Commander deck from Card Kingdom? You can also potentially find it inside a Target or Walmart. The deck is a preconstructed 99 card Commander deck with Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients as Commander, who's a Dragon. The precon is two colors (green and red called Gruul), but it has a Dragon theme and there's several good Dragons and cards that care about Dragons.

In fact, there's 40+ cards in the precon that would improve your deck including several budget staples such as Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Command Tower. These 40+ cards would help to steer this deck in a more focused direction which is Dragons since Tiamat is a Dragon and his ability can search for Dragons.

Good luck with your deck.

ZendikariWol on Not using the obvious?

1 month ago

I upgraded the Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients precon to be "power 5 or greater" synergies. My first commander was Mayael the Anima so I'm loving this reimagining of my first deck.

multimedia on Tiamat

1 month ago

Hey, welcome to TappedOut and Commander. Nice collection of cards for your first deck, but you've kind of just added cards to add them to make a deck not because they belong with Dragons.

Some advice is to consider getting the new Draconic Rage Commander precon? It's a preconstructed 100 card Commander deck that's focused on a Dragon theme. In the precon are several cards that would be upgrades for your deck.


More advice is consider doing some research at EDHRec Top Cards in Commander? These cards are the most played cards in Commander, called staples and most are budget. EDHRec is a great site to see examples of deck building for Commander. Several of these cards are in the Draconic Rage precon.

You can also look at the budget cards that most people playing five color Dragons use EDHRec Dragons.

The main reason that most of these cards are the most played is because they provide high synergy, effects for Dragons, Dragon tribal effects. Atarka, World Render gives itself and all other attacking Dragons you control double strike which makes each Dragon do more combat damage either to the opponent blockers or to the opponent who they attacked. Crux of Fate can destroy all nonDragon creatures leaving just you with an army of Dragons to attack your opponents unblocked and not have to worry as much about the opponents attacking you after.

Another reason most of these cards are most played is because they have more than one effect such as Dragon's Hoard. It can be ramp, making any one color, as well as repeatable draw making this one card a source of ramp and a source of draw. Temur Ascendancy is a haste enabler letting Dragons attack the same turn they ETB and it's also a repeatable draw source each time any 4 or more power creature you control ETB including creature tokens.


What EDHRec lacks is casual deck building structure advice, basic guidelines to follow to structure a casual Commander deck. Good ratios for a starting basic structure:

When you have a basic structure in place then you can of course add other cards that do other things. When playing five colors ramp is important because ramp also provides mana color fixing from getting lands that can make different colors of mana (Farseek) or from mana rocks (Arcane Signet)/mana dorks (Faeburrow Elder) that can make different colors of mana. Ramp is also just as important when your Commander, in this case Tiamat, has a high converted mana cost (CMC). Tiamat is 7 CMC which ramp can help to cast him and then that same ramp can help to cast other Dragons.

Good luck with your deck.

plakjekaas on Vrondiss, Rage of Terror combo

1 month ago

If you have death-proof, Blazing Sunsteel is a card you might look into to sustain a loop of all the dragon spirits, as backup for Terror of the Peaks. Just slap it on a death-proof Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients, poke it, and it can keep hitting itself until you decide how many million dragon spirits is enough.

TypicalTimmy on Vrondiss, Rage of Terror combo

1 month ago

It's a janky one, but it's a fun one.

Vrondiss, Rage of Ancients is in play. You also have Terror of the Peaks in play.

Slap some death-proof on Vrondiss and poke him with a stick. As long as you can ping him with just one single damage, you're good.

It's as simple as getting another creature into play, hitting him with a shock spell. Hell you can even attack and if he is blocked, cast Heroic Intervention in response. He takes the damage but survives.

Once Vrondiss is hit for some damage, he will make a 5/4 Dragon Spirit token.

Now we CAN NOT have the token deal damage. If we do, the token is exiled. That's why we need Terror of the Peaks, because Terror deals the ETB damage.


Actually, we can have the token deal damage. If we use Dragon Tempest, Warstorm Surge, Scourge of Valkas, etc then what we can do is have the 5/4 slap Vrondiss on his big ol'e scaly behind and ghost him like a bad date. We can still win with a pinger mentioned below.


Throw that damage at Vrondiss. He is hit, makes a 5/4, gets hit again, makes a 5/4, gets hit again, makes a 5/4...

If you are able to hit him prior to combat and you have something such as Fervor in play, you can swing for infinite damage. (To the best of my knowledge, this only works with Terror of the Peaks. If you intend to swing for lethal combat damage, you need the 5/4 tokens in play - obviously. Because Terror deals the damage, the tokens remain. However, you can always have the tokens deal the damage via other methods, but they vanish. In that case, your wincon is below.)

If you are past combat, you can machinegun the table with any ETB pinger such as Impact Tremors or any other one.

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