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Triumph of Saint Katherine
Creature — Human Warrior
Lifelink
Praesidium Protectiva — When Triumph of Saint Katherine dies, exile this and the top six cards of your library in a face-down pile. If you do, shuffle that pile into your library and put this back on top of your library.
Miracle (You may cast this card for its miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you draw this turn.)
Gidgetimer on What happens if you steal …
1 year ago
I was having the same issue. There isn't a rule that covers the fact that the owner of a card is known to all participants. I was unaware of the ruling though, I find it a good basis for handling Triumph of Saint Katherine.
Rhadamanthus on What happens if you steal …
1 year ago
I've been following this discussion but didn't get into it because I felt like the points that were brought up covered what needed to be done. A card can only go to its owner's library, so you have to account for that when randomizing the objects in the pile.
I had a thought after reading through all this again and found the following rulings note from the Gatherer entry for Jeskai Infiltrator:
2014/11/24: A card's owner is public information at all times. If the two cards you exile are owned by different players (perhaps because you gained control of a Jeskai Infiltrator owned by your opponent), which card is which is no longer hidden from your opponent. That player will know which face-down creature he or she owns.
The reference to "public information" means this ruling is also relying on the MTR to address the situation, since that's where the different classes of information are defined for tournament play (the CR doesn't approach information in this way). I have no idea why Triumph of Saint Katherine wasn't given a similar rulings note in its Gatherer entry.
Yesterday on Are there any game actions …
1 year ago
If you steal a Triumph of Saint Katherine and it dies, you're instructed to shuffle it (which you don't own) and the top cards of your library together in a face-down pile*.
While shuffling cards in a face-down pile, they're meant to be indistinguishable from each other. But you also can't put cards that you don't own into your library, and so the Triumph goes to its owner's library instead. But you can't do that without looking at the cards as you're putting them on top of your library, so need to get a judge to assist if you were to follow the rules to the letter.
It's not a big deal in practice to just separate the Triumph before shuffling, when the end result is the same, but it's singularly bizarre to me. Are there any other interactions that require outside help in order to play them out properly, even if you're able to shortcut around them in practice? Or is Triumph of Saint Katherine the only outlier?
Discounting Acorn cards like Kindslaver of course.
Gidgetimer on What happens if you steal …
1 year ago
Yes, but I don't understand why one would want to follow the rules to the letter when it makes no difference to the end result. But to follow rules to the letter you need to involve an additional person, who isn't a player within the game that this is taking place, to find the Triumph of Saint Katherine so that all cards can go to their correct zones. In a tournament this will be a judge (though after the first time being called to find the Triumph I foresee them instructing you to handle it the way I suggested). In a casual game it will be an innocent bystander.
701.20a To shuffle a library or a face-down pile of cards, randomize the cards within it so that no player knows their order.
Gidgetimer on What happens if you steal …
1 year ago
There is only one exile zone. The controller of Triumph of Saint Katherine will exile the top 6 cards of their library and then shuffle them and Triumph into a facedown pile. Then the 6 cards they own will go on top of their library and the Triumph of Saint Katherine will go on top of its owners library. For ease and less wear on cards I'd not bother shuffling the Triumph in with the other 6 cards. But technically all 7 will get shuffled together and then each card will go on top of their respective owner's libraries.
400.1. A zone is a place where objects can be during a game. There are normally seven zones: library, hand, battlefield, graveyard, stack, exile, and command. Some older cards also use the ante zone. Each player has their own library, hand, and graveyard. The other zones are shared by all players.
400.3. If an object would go to any library, graveyard, or hand other than its owner’s, it goes to its owner’s corresponding zone.
Yesterday on What happens if you steal …
1 year ago
What happens to a Triumph of Saint Katherine that an opponent owns if you steal it and it dies?
You exile it and the top six cards of your library, then shuffle the pile minus the Triumph, then put the six cards you own on top of your library? And Triumph... stays in exile? You put it on top of its owner's library?