Tolarian Kraken

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tolarian Kraken

Creature — Kraken

Whenever you draw a card, you may pay . When you do, you may tap or untap target creature.

thefiresoflurve on Kamiz‘s Combat Damage Tribal

1 year ago

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I'd honestly try to find a way to run both. I would recommend cutting Tolarian Kraken due to high CMC and kind of underwhelming effect. If it said "permanent" instead of "creature", it would be a lot better.

multimedia on Runo Sea Monster Tribal

2 years ago

Hey, nice version on less than $100 budget.

I know this is sea monster tribal, but consider cutting a few of the lesser sea monsters for more effects to enable Runo to transform and some more ramp?

Vile Entomber can first help to setup Runo then Krothuss can copy it to get Wonder into your graveyard while in combat. It's helpful to have a creature who Krothuss can copy to put any sea monster from your library into your graveyard for reanimation.

These card suggestions could replace:

Legendary sea monsters are less good with Krothuss because can't keep the token copies of them and Lorthos/Slinn don't give you any effect for value when token copies of them enter the battlefield.

Baleful Strix is good with Sea-Dasher Octopus to mutate for a flying/deathtouch 2/2 Octopus who draws a card when a token copy of it is created as well as when it does combat damage to a player. Without Sea-Dasher Strix is still good with Krothuss for repeatable draw. Strix could replace Perplex.

Good luck with your deck.

ThousandOaks on Niv-Mizzet, Wheel of Hatred

3 years ago

Blaksteele Really nice protoype. Niv-Mizzet, Parun may be one of the most fun commanders in EDH. I really think you have a solid prototype here. Definitely play test it to see what direction you want to take this beast.

A few suggestions:

*Less Creatures*

Niv-Mizzet, Parun loves when you draw cards and casts spells. I would recommend playing less creatures and more spells that net raw card draw. Cards like Oneirophage seem great, but aren't as valuable as triggering Niv-Mizzet's ability. The same is true with creatures like Tolarian Kraken or Nadir Kraken where you have to spend resources on top of drawing cards to trigger an additional effect.

Instead of running the extra creatures, I would trust more in Niv-Mizzet, Parun . Fill your deck with cheap spells that draw cards, and in turn trigger Niv-Mizzet, Parun 's ability to draw extra cards and do damage. Opt , Brainstorm , Wheel and Deal , Windfall , Ponder are all great examples that exploit Niv-Mizzy so well.

If you're going to run creatures, I think you double down on creatures that punish players each time you draw. You already have Electrostatic Field , so maybe include Guttersnipe ?

*Protection and Interaction*

Niv-Mizzet, Parun 's greatest weaknesses are his mana cost (3 red + 3 blue) and protecting him. This is truly a deck that will probably not win without its commander on the field, so you really need to protect him. You should include a package of instants that will allow you to interact with your opponents' attempts to remove him. Lazotep Plating is a cheap option. Basic control magic will also be very helpful (and each one triggers Niv-Mizzy). Counterspell , Delay , Narset's Reversal , Wizard's Retort etc are all good and affordable options. Consider removing Jaya, Venerated Firemage and Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded to make room for them. These planeswalker seem good, but will almost never net you as much value as other instant/sorceries will.

*Manabase and Mana-fixing*

As noted above, getting down Niv-Mizzet will be tough if you can't mana fix. If you are running 40 lands, make sure you have a way to fix your mana. You're going to need 3 Red and 3 Blue to cast Niv-Mizzet. In a basic land only build, to get Niv-Mizzy out on curve, you'll need to make sure you never miss a land drop and you drop down the right land each drop. Most games you'll lose, will probably be because you can't cast Niv-Mizzy. I'd add tools that make sure that happens. Arcane Signet is an easy add. Expedition Map as well.

As you build your mana base, focus on lands that don't come into play tap but can produce any color mana.

*OVERALL*

Really great starting place! You got it down to a solid win condition, you have a clear vision on how you're going to get there, and you have themes that support the plan. All you need know is focusing down on those themes a little more and finding more consistent paths to success. Well done for your second build. (Remember to include your manabase, even if its just filled with basic lands... because right now, it looks like you're playing 40 lands. With an average CMC of 3.5, that seems like a lot.)

Optimator on Thada Big Mana

3 years ago

I forgot to count Sad Robot. You have nine ramp pieces.


It seems innocuous, but Sand Squid always puts in more work than it seems. I'd run it over Harbor Serpent for flavor. Hell, I'd run almost anything over Harbor Serpent. Spined Megalodon and Tolarian Kraken are fun new sea monsters. Most Serpents are commons and have the appropriate power associated with that. Nothing wrong with that from a design perspective but in EDH you are gonna be better off with more impactful cards.


I prefer Conjurer's Closet over Cold Storage for permanently keeping stolen creatures. Thassa, Deep-Dwelling is fantastic too and on-theme.


I've made two sea-creature tribals. Check them out for inspiration! Coral Capers -- (Budget Seamonsters) and Tidal Trouble. The Maybeboards are full of almost every playable fish and sea monster.

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