Suffer the Past

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Custom Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Rise of the Eldrazi (ROE) Uncommon

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Suffer the Past

Instant

Exile X target cards from target player's graveyard. For each card exiled this way, that player loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.

Suffer the Past Discussion

TinkererEDH on ComicKoS - Lord Windgrace

1 week ago

First thing I'll suggest additions

  • mana ramp: Lotus Cobra - land etb you add one mana of any color - pushes your ramp faster

Amulet of Vigor - if a permanent you control etbs tapped, untap it. Not only ramps you faster, but gets past those pesky all your things come in tapped crud.

Exploration - you may play an additional land each turn, only . Very few things are more satisfying than having 7 lands turn 3 while everyone else is just putting down their third land.

Boundless Realms - search for as many basic lands as lands you control

Scapeshift - search for as many lands (basic or not) as you sacrifice

Kodama's Reach - you need a bunch of ramp spells to act with in case you don't have lord windgrace or he becomes too expensive to cast

Demonic Tutor - search your library for a card

Vampiric Tutor - search your library for a card

Beseech the Queen - search your library for a card

Summoner's Pact - pay or lose at your upkeep

Chord of Calling - search for or less CMC creature

Tooth and Nail - search for two creatures or put two creatures onto the battlefield from your hand

Rude Awakening - all lands you control become 2/2 creatures or you untap all lands or both

three of the five panoramas: The other two only fetch you one of the lands

Jund Panorama - search for any of the three basic land types you need

Grixis Panorama - search for swamp or mountain

Naya Panorama - search for mountain or forest

three of the temples:

Temple of Malady - BG scry 1.

Temple of Malice - BR scry 1.

Temple of Abandon - GR scry 1.

Things to do with

Fireball - x damage to creature or player

Crater's Claws - x damage to creature or player

Rolling Thunder - x damage to creature or player - can do more targets

Banefire - x damage to creature or player

Bonfire of the Damned xx to do x damage to tgt player and each creature he controls

Torment of Hailfire - choice of losing 3 life, sacrifice a nonland permanent, or discard a card - hilarious for huge numbers of x, and can swing the game beyond anyone recovering

Consume Spirit - x loss of life and x gain of life for you

Suffer the Past - x loss of life for x exiled cards from tgt player's graveyard. Kills their recursion and them

Dark Salvation - xx for x zombies and making a creature -x/-x until end of turn.

RNR_Gaming on Fullstop *Desperately Needs Help Trimming!*

3 weeks ago

What I'd trim

Suffer the Past - better graveyard hate options

Batwing Brume - in a competitive pod/play group a 1 time fog and drain effect is cute but you shouldn't really care too much about attacking creatures; with your commander your opponents shouldn't be able to stick anything for more than a turn

Mastermind's Acquisition - better tutors like Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor : are you allowed to have a wish board?

Like this doesnt look like a bad start but examine your play groups and determine the most effective cards with the most efficient cmc and cut the rest.

goldlion on Oloro Help

6 months ago

Reasons for the two questions above:

If you are winning 1/4 games, you are on par with the rest of the decks in your meta :). Either way though, tuning our decks is part of the fun and will make our playgroup improve as well.

As for the other question, for me the cards that "aren't bad", but aren't great most of time, are the signals for weak links. Either I take those out in favour of cards that synergize, increase card advantage or make a pathway to, and support, my win condition... Or, if they are cards I want to focus on, I keep them in and remove others in place of cards that'll make the "aren't bad" cards great.. Of course it all depends :).


I admit, I do not have much experience with STAXish or Control, and I'm still low on the learning curve. I do have some thoughts to share that I think can help :). I like to find a balance between flavour and function, cards that synergize and have the same "feel" while helping achieve more focus. The focus is a big step for a deck to take to get more wins. Coming up with some clear pathways to your wincons is important.

If you don't have the $ to pickup the Demonic Tutor , Idyllic Tutor and Enlightened Tutor s, there are options like Insidious Dreams . I always look at scryfall.com for transmute cards that could work as well. I just saw Brainspoil , it would be cheaper to activate than Diabolic Tutor . You would pay 3, discard it and go for any card that's 5 cmc, with special thought to either piece of your wincon. It'd also offer another removal in a pinch, or if your wincon is in hand.

If the Blood-Bond combo is your win-con right now, I'd recommend adding in recursion to get them back if they're destroyed. Argivian Find for example. Monk Idealist is a good option if you want to be more creature based. Tragic Poet is slightly slower but lower cmc. Dawn to Dusk costs a little more but pulls double duty as enchantment removal. Open the Vaults could get them both on the battlefield if each are in the yard, and for cheaper than casting both from your hand - you could make getting them from your library to your yard and casting this one pathway to your wincon. I've heard of someone using Insidious Dreams to put combo cards on top of their library, then using something to mill themselves (blue is good at this) and casting an Open the Vaults type spell. Either way you want to go, it'd be worth having at least two recursion spells to support your win-con.

If you add that enchantment recursion, a Sunbond might work to good effect, synergizing with both your lifegain and counters, but also allowing you to beef up a creature for a big strike. Spirit Loop is fantastic on big strikers, if you find your getting one in 75-80% of games. It doubles up with lifelink. Underworld Coinsmith could be a nice flavour/function addition if you start leaning into the enchantment side a little more. Basilisk Collar is a great value card giving some big creature deathtouch as one more disincentive for attacking you, while giving you another tool for lifegain when it's time to go on the attack. Imagine these on Defiant Bloodlord ?!

Worn Powerstone could be a good addition to your mana-base, something the deck might need to be able to keep responding. Smothering Tithe is one that’s off flavour but could be what you need to help ramp.

As Kaigz recommended, Dawn of Hope would go well and give you good card draw.

Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer could be a nice little combo in this deck - but they both do great as solo includes. I have Krav in a deck that has the colours for Regna, but I already make plenty of tokens. In this deck, you don't have as many creatures to sacrifice to Krav, and if Regna was removed he'd be less useful for you. However, I'd say Regna might be useful? If you had a few more token generators, they'd be a great addition. Casting a creature and getting another to your hand is pretty big value in itself, but with tokens Krav is fantastic value while also making a big creature. I have him in my life leaching Ghave deck

Purity seems sweet. Do you have much red in your meta, enough to make this worth the slot and cmc? if so... Auriok Champion could swapped in for Soul's Attendant , 1 more, it has protection from red making it not just immune to red spells, but an invincible blocker against any creatures (meta dependent).

Imp's Mischief is a powerful little "counterspell" that isn't a counterspell and it goes into the bucket of cards the teach people not to target you... This style of deck is a good place to take that strategy that punishes people for coming at you. Deathtouch and instant speed removals help with that as well.

Suffer the Past is a fun flavour one I like especially because there's some graveyard based decks in my meta. It does graveyard removal while also acting as a Exsanguinate .

Batwing Brume is a cheap$ fog for your colours that also fits the flavour.

Obzedat?


Here's some thoughts on cards to take out - of course this is from online review and opinion, I don't have the gameplay experience you have.

Do you regularly have plenty of cards in hand to make the of Venser's Journal worth it?

Pontiff of Blight I don't think there's good value between his cost and what he offers you. There's cards that'd do far more for you.

I THINK cards like Night Terrors are better for much faster and competitive metas where you will know who is going to most likely be able to stop you from comboing off. Or in 1v1 games. I haven't found a place for those cards in semi-competitive group metas yet, and definitely wouldn't guess to see it fulfilling the cardslot's deserved value. It's a 1for1 trade off leaving you and the person you targeted one step behind your other opponents in card advantage. I DO see the times it could be fantastic, but it's one of those corner-case cards in the multiplayer slower style of EDH.

I feel like with the slow lifegain you have, I'd take Aetherflux Reservoir out until you consistently, after many, many games, find yourself getting to 90-100 life. I understand it to be mainly good in Storm or in a deck with more explosive life gain, like Firesong and Sunspeaker , or one that uses lifelink or Spirit Loop on a giant voltron commander. I might, if this were my deck, take it out for cards that make your deck tick a little more, just for now. Then, if you are gaining plenty of life (multiples of 50) over many games or created strong pathways to get Exquisite Blood onto the battlefield, you will by then see what is worth taking out for this. Exquisite Blood and the Reservoir are pretty their own Blood-Bond combo, but you need to make sure you have that 55 or more life consistently.

Felidar Sovereign ... Personal opinion alert .... When I first got back into magic I was so excited to pull this in a booster pack... I personally dont enjoy these alternate wincons and feel there's cards that could fill this slot that'd synergize with other cards for more diverse interactions and make the deck far more interesting. But that's just me :)

goldlion on Breaking Carnival of Souls

7 months ago

This conversation is great to see. I agree, it’s an untapped card (heh heh) and it was fun playing around with it in the deck Hamroids linked to above. This was more of a janky flavour version I built, but I want to do a cEDH version with the altars and cards like Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate . Drain Life is the version I used, a card I found in a free box but which works fantastic in here as a single target removal for both creature or opponent. I did throw in Sanguine Sacrament like Joe_Ken_ mentioned, especially for response to an opponent playing a bunch of tokens, but also Suffer the Past , for the same reason and as a response to graveyard tricks by opponents.

It was great to see your thought process leading to Abzan as the colours. Ghave is the king for breaking Carnival of Souls because he has both sacrifice and creature production built on board, both for the magical cost of one.

How about I get started on the cEDH version of what I did then get you guys on board for focusing it on breaking the carnival?

MokraMrkva on Life and Death

1 year ago

nice, got a few good ideas for my deck from yours. i would probably consider removing Moment of Triumph, Righteousness, Urge to Feed, Orzhov Keyrune and instead consider Blood Artist, Exquisite Blood (if possible, it's expensive), Suffer the Past, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Kalastria Highborn. most of them are from your maybeboard.

joecool1299 on Toshiro's Murder

1 year ago

Always nice to see another Toshiro deck. Budget too!

I really really, really don’t like Cremate in this style of deck. I get the idea, it’s kinda like Think Twice but it’s not really worth it. Commander cards really need to do something and Cremate doesn’t do enough. If you want better card draw, Dark Bargain and Moonlight Bargain is much better. If you want graveyard hate Suffer the Past and Crypt Incursion are good in this deck.

Terror is cute but how about Cast Down, Ghastly Demise, or Vendetta?

Grave Betrayal is cute but it’s really expensive.

Chainer, Dementia Master is awesome. Some board states become auto wins with Chainer in play and if you really need a creature back, you can kill it easily.

I will throw out Illness in the Ranks seems loose. It really only works if you get both it and Orchard in play and that seems a bit magical Christmas land-y. I personally wouldn’t play it but that’s just me.

Oh! Isolated Watchtower and Arcane Lighthouse. Virtually No downside and gives you an out to hexproof creatures.

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