Suffer the Past

Instant

Exile X target cards from target player's graveyard. For each card exiled this way, that player loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

MrKillStar on

3 years ago

Temporal Extortion could be pretty nice with K'rrik, you either reduce someones health by half, take an extra turn or with Vilis on board, you can pay half your life and draw that many cards. It gets even crazier if your playgroup allows you Panoptic Mirror.
Beacon of Unrest - to get your citadel/sensei/reservoir combo piece back into play.
Sadistic Sacrament - probably one of my most favorite black cards. Exiling up to 15 cards from target opponent's deck can be really huge or game winning. Especially since you would pay only for kicker cost and with K'rrik.
Priest of Gix - maybe not as good as Overeager Apprentice, but could work aswell.
Emergence Zone - is a great utility land to combo out at the end of your opponent's end step.
Malakir Rebirth  ^Flip - to protect K'rrik or Vilis, which would also draw 2 cards or just use it as an extra land if needed. For only and isntant speed spell, its really nice card to have. Erebos's Intervention - could help with removing some annoying indestructible creature, gain some life back and help agaisnt some graveyard focused decks. Also similar to Suffer the Past.

MrKillStar on Vito Combo

3 years ago

In my potato opinion, you can cut few swamps without a problem with your ramp cards.

If you'll ever feel like playing against graveyard decks is annoying, Crypt Incursion/Suffer the Past would help. Both instant speed graveyard hate stamples that also gives you life -> triggering your Vito, Defiant Bloodlord, S.B and Blight-Priest.

Tribute to Hunger - cheap creature removal that also gives you life, but depends on opponent's board.

Instead of Rise of the Dark Realms you might consider running Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip to reanimate your combo pieces for less mana cost. It can also be used as a land if needed. Another option could be Command the Dreadhorde, since life shouldnt be such a problem. Finale of Eternity is also an option, both as reanimate spell and removal. I personally feel like there isnt enough creatures in your deck to such massive and mana-expensive reanimator spells.

Call the Bloodline - if you ever feel like having not enough Vampires for Kicker cost of Blood Tribute. Its also decent to discard big creatures (to reanimate them later) and making a 1/1 to sacrifice.

Bastion of Remembrance - fits into aristocrat decks really well, since it gives you 1/1, has aristocrat ability and is an enchantment, so its a bit harder to remove than creature is.

Trading Post - This is more or less a personal card choice, but it gives you life, makes tokens, retrieves artifacts and even draws you a card. Not bad at all.

Malakir Rebirth  ^Flip - Absolutely great and cheap card to protect any of your creaters, re-triggering its ETB ability (Gray Merchant of Asphodel) and can also be used as a land if needed.

Thespian's Stage and Mirage Mirror can both copy your Cabal Coffers to ramp you like crazy.
Cabal Stronghold - cheaper version of Cabal Coffers that can tap for on its own.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - a bit more expensive but can also ramp a lot in mono-color decks.
Lake of the Dead - almost as expensive as Cabal Coffers, but can also ramp you a lot. But is just a luxury.
Homeward Path - would be consider running if you would play against some mana-control decks.
Myriad Landscape - not the greatest, but works well in any mono-color deck outside of green (if not landfall decks). Easy way to get two swamps out of your deck, so less chances of top decking lands and also triggers your Dread Presence twice.

And as the grand finale, my favorite combo of my For the Void: Tortured Existence+Desecrated Tomb to instantly generate a 1/1 black Bat token with flying (as flying blockers, for example) just for . It requires only having a creature in your graveyard and another in your hand. Add Phyrexian Altar and you can activate it infinitely times, making any of your aristocrat cards lethal. Just watchout for Necropotence because it exiles whatever you discard, shutting the combo down.

I would most likely remove:

Platinum Angel - protects you from losing the game and opponents from winning the game, but doesnt really fit the deck that much. Cool card for sure.
Rise of the Dark Realms - is just really expensive reanimation card.
Night's Whisper - Its cheap, but sorcery speed, so thats up to you. Prism Ring - doesnt seems that worth it to me. Its cheaper than Staff of the Death Magus, but if you cant cast a lot of black spells each turn, I wouldnt bother with Prism Ring at all.
Cut/switch few basic Swamps for sure.

wereotter on Fuck Meren & her stupid clan [Primer]

3 years ago

Suffer the Past is another graveyard hate card that's become a favorite of mine... and if you're extremely lucky you might even kill a player with it. Beyond that, love this deck. Meren is so annoying.

MrKillStar on Aristoc-Rat

3 years ago

Nice rat deck! :3

I might consider to swap the following cards:
Out: Blood Divination for: Bankrupt in Blood for - same amount of cards, but BiB costs less to cast, but requires sac 2 creatures.
Out: Coat of Arms for: Haunted Crossroads/Mortuary - You run not small amount of non-rat creatures. Even if CoA can buff your army of rats a lot, it also affects your opponent's creatures, but that depends on what kind of deck they use. Some kind of creature recovery could be definitely nice too.
Out: Rats' Feast for: Suffer the Past - Not a rat related card, but its strictly better version.
Out: Palace Siege - Im not really sure about this one, but I think that you would be better with any other creature recovery card/life pinging card. I would either use Force of Despair (board wipe if someone goes crazy; combos with your Thrilling Encore, which also works well with Living Death) or Profane Command, which is very flexible card.
Out: Temple of the False God for: Crypt of Agadeem/Bojuka Bog/Cabal Stronghold/Reliquary Tower...

Some more cards that could help aswell:
Emergence Zone; Path of Ancestry; Myriad Landscape; Altar of the Brood; Village Rites; Phyrexian Arena/Necropotence; Blanket of Night (budget version of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth); Unearth.
Cards that DemMeowsephs mentioned are also very good and strong, just not very budget friendly. Just like Cavern of Souls.

MrKillStar on Ayara Ping

3 years ago

I would cut Conspiracy, since most of your creatures are zombies anyway and little tokens you create, you could just sacrifice asap with Ayara/Conrad on board.

Prismatic Geoscope - read rules on Gatherer.wizards.com - its 5 mana rock, that enters the battlefield tapped and can produce only one mana = useless in mono color deck. Better go with Sol Ring/Mana Geode/Arcane Signet are better options for that.

I use Tortured Existence+Desecrated Tomb in my For the Void deck and its just pure awesomeness. Every activasion of TD triggers Syr Conrad's ability twice (one creature coming out of you GY, another one coming in) and DT gives you 1/1 BLACK bat token with flying (which matters for Ayara). Its also insant speed activation, so you can use them to create flying blockers and a lot of tokens to sacrifice. Add in Phyrexian Altar and you can go infinite with either Ayara or Syr Konrad.

Sanguine Bond - With weak life gain in this deck, I wouldnt bother with this. I would replace it with more ramp - Caged Sun/Black Market or Songs of the Damned (which would work even better with Buried Alive), etc.; Village Rites would be very nice card draw (of course Phyrexian Arena, Necropotence is a big thing too).
Liliana of the Dark Realms could be also pretty nice for ramp.
You can always keep Sanguine Bond and throw in more life gain stuff life Whip of Erebos/Dread Presence/Ivory Tower/Venser's Journal or graveyard hate cards like Crypt Incursion/Suffer the Past.

Woe Strider could be used as instant sac outlet for your Ayara, with a 0/1 WHITE token and scry 1 as a nice bonus.

Cabal Coffers,Lake of the Dead,Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - also very good lands for mono black decks, just not for low budget decks. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - probably not worth it if you dont run that many non-swamp lands.

Cards I would cut off:

Forlorn Pseudamma - 4 cmc 2/1, that needs to be tapped and pay additional just to make 2/2 zombie seems not very good.
Piper of the Swarm - they only thing making rats is Piper and Plague of Vermin (which is ok though). Piper works much better in Ayara rat decks. In this almost zombie tribal deck, Piper just doesnt really fit.
Syphon Flesh - Very independent on your opponent's board state and number of opponents.. So its kinda 50/50.
Conspiracy - Unless you're going to do some shenanigans with making non-zombie creatures and tokens into zombies (I counted 10 things in total that are either non-zombie creatures or make non-zombie tokens), I really wouldnt waste a card space with it, unless you can do some absurd amount of tokens.
Prismatic Geoscope - as I already said above.

MrKillStar on

3 years ago

I would personally replace:
Prism Ring for Trading Post - Could be very handy artifact in decks like this.
The Immortal Sun for Exquisite Blood - creates infinite loop with Vito and Sanguine Bond, but isnt cheap. I wouldnt bother with The Immortal Sun, unless your playgroup runs a lot of planeswalkers or you struggle with card draw (which shouldnt be a problem in mono-black.
The Haunt of Hightower - I would say you need either more discard or mill effects to get Hightower big.. Doom Whisperer seems to be much more useful.
Tavern Swindler - Its just gamble that doesnt seem to be worthy in a deck, where you can already get a lot of life by other cards. Bastion of Remembrance works as another aristocrat effect (Tortured Existence+Desecrated Tomb+Phyrexian Altar as infinite engine).
Dreadhorde Invasion - You dont use any other Amass effect cards and it takes 6 turns to make a 6/6 zombie with lifelink (which will last only until end of your turn), which is pretty meh. It would be good if you had some sacrifice cards, like Smothering Abomination, Village Rites, Diabolic Intent, etc. I would go for either Twilight Prophet or Bloodline Keeper  ^Flip. Captivating Vampire could be useful aswell. With Carnival of Souls you could get a bit of ramp, but can backfire really hard, so its kinda risky.
Gifted Aetherborn - is pretty nice drop I guess, but feels kinda weak overall. Kalastria Highborn supports your mostly vampire creatures and can also drain your opponents.
Swiftfoot Boots - unless you want the haste, Whispersilk Cloak seems like a decent option. It cost more to cast and to equip, but makes your creature unblockable.
Drag to the Underworld - should do a good job, Oblivion Strike might be something to consider aswell. Or just Corrupt?

Some more cards that might be useful:
Call the Bloodline - discards useless cards and makes a 1/1 vampire token (once per turn).
Revenge of Ravens - decent defensive enchantment that could fit your lifesteal deck nicely.
Burnished Hart - slow ramp creature. BH also triggers your Dread Presence and Staff of the Death Magus.
Crypt Incursion, Suffer the Past - more graveyard hate and another life gain.

TinkererEDH on ComicKoS Lord Windgrace Landfall

4 years ago

First thing I'll suggest additions

• mana ramp: Lotus Cobra - land etb you add one mana of any color - pushes your ramp faster

Amulet of Vigor - if a permanent you control etbs tapped, untap it. Not only ramps you faster, but gets past those pesky all your things come in tapped crud.

Exploration - you may play an additional land each turn, only . Very few things are more satisfying than having 7 lands turn 3 while everyone else is just putting down their third land.

Boundless Realms - search for as many basic lands as lands you control

Scapeshift - search for as many lands (basic or not) as you sacrifice

Kodama's Reach - you need a bunch of ramp spells to act with in case you don't have lord windgrace or he becomes too expensive to cast

Demonic Tutor - search your library for a card

Vampiric Tutor - search your library for a card

Beseech the Queen - search your library for a card

Summoner's Pact - pay or lose at your upkeep

Chord of Calling - search for or less CMC creature

Tooth and Nail - search for two creatures or put two creatures onto the battlefield from your hand

Rude Awakening - all lands you control become 2/2 creatures or you untap all lands or both

three of the five panoramas: The other two only fetch you one of the lands

Jund Panorama - search for any of the three basic land types you need

Grixis Panorama - search for swamp or mountain

Naya Panorama - search for mountain or forest

three of the temples:

Temple of Malady - BG scry 1.

Temple of Malice - BR scry 1.

Temple of Abandon - GR scry 1.

Things to do with

Fireball - x damage to creature or player

Crater's Claws - x damage to creature or player

Rolling Thunder - x damage to creature or player - can do more targets

Banefire - x damage to creature or player

Bonfire of the Damned xx to do x damage to tgt player and each creature he controls

Torment of Hailfire - choice of losing 3 life, sacrifice a nonland permanent, or discard a card - hilarious for huge numbers of x, and can swing the game beyond anyone recovering

Consume Spirit - x loss of life and x gain of life for you

Suffer the Past - x loss of life for x exiled cards from tgt player's graveyard. Kills their recursion and them

Dark Salvation - xx for x zombies and making a creature -x/-x until end of turn.

RNR_Gaming on Fullstop *Desperately Needs Help Trimming!*

4 years ago

What I'd trim

Suffer the Past - better graveyard hate options

Batwing Brume - in a competitive pod/play group a 1 time fog and drain effect is cute but you shouldn't really care too much about attacking creatures; with your commander your opponents shouldn't be able to stick anything for more than a turn

Mastermind's Acquisition - better tutors like Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor : are you allowed to have a wish board?

Like this doesnt look like a bad start but examine your play groups and determine the most effective cards with the most efficient cmc and cut the rest.