Stonecloaker

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Stonecloaker

Creature — Gargoyle

Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could play an instant.)

Flying

When Stonecloaker enters the battlefield, return a creature you control to its owner's hand.

When Stonecloaker enters the battlefield, exile target card from a graveyard.

TypicalTimmy on How do you build Karametra?

6 months ago

I had built my Karametra, God of Harvests with two main facets: The Landfall mechanic, and very massive creatures to put those lands to good use.

One clever trick you can do is loop Jeskai Barricade and Stonecloaker back and forth, bouncing each other. If you have an appropriate means of cost reduction, it becomes very efficient. For example, Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key would reduce their individual costs to a mere .

Each time one of these ETB, you bounce the other and tutor a Plains. If you have a means to have that Plains ETB untapped, or able to untap it, you can filter all of them from your library that turn. One method is Stone-Seeder Hierophant. Another is Amulet of Vigor.

These, in effect, allow you to cast Jeskai Barricade for just . Upon cast, you tutor a Plains. It ETB tapped and you either untap it with Amulet of Vigor or with Stone-Seeder Hierophant. From here, Jeskai Barricade ETB and you bounce Stonecloaker. Now, that Plains you just had ETB and got to untap can be tapped to add , allowing you to cast the Stonecloaker from your hand thanks to the cost reduction of Oketra's Monument and Cloud Key. From here, you tutor another Plains and repeat the whole process over again.

If you want lands that have , you can do this one of two ways:

Filtering into will assist you in getting green mana, but it won't allow you to tutor Forests.

However, what this will do is you can tutor Forest, and use the Forest to pay for to continue the combo mentioned above. If you do this, you can tutor every single land in your entire library in one single turn.

Unfortunately, Selesnya doesn't exactly have a means to give global haste. You'd want to rely on something such as Akroma's Memorial or something else. It gets pretty tricky and difficult and you're better off to try and secure the win via alt-wincon.

But, this whole setup is extremely flimsy. Just one piece being removed blows the entire combo up. Your table may not see what's going on the first one or two times, but they will catch on and the moment Jeskai Barricade drops for the first time, it'll be hit with a furious wave of removal. Once this happens, your entire deck is dead in the water.

That's why I no longer play Karametra. She definitely is a Timmy deck because she absolutely wants tons and tons of creatures slamming the field as quickly as possible... but she becomes super flimsy. Imagine getting 9 or 10 lands out by Turn 6 or 7. You drop something massive like a Desolation Twin and it gets hit with the first wave of removal. What happens is you become the biggest threat at the table, even when you have literally nothing. The reason this mentality sinks in is because your Commander has Indestructible, so most players are unequipped to handle her. Since her removal isn't an option, they hit your boardstate, instead.

You become a magnet for removal and hate, and you spend the rest of the game "catching up" and "doing nothing".

In my personal experience, she isn't fun to play because of this very reason. But... if you'd want to build her, that's how I did.

  • Landfall + that combo

...so Stonecloaker can bounce itself. No need to even have Jeskai Barricade. Jfc I am the biggest of dumb.

Still, you need cost reduction + filtering + land untapping... it's still a cumbersome problem and, like I said, one piece of removal blows the entire combo apart.

Grasshoppeh1 on Karametra, Big-Mana Stompy [PRIMER]

6 months ago

Saw your reddit post, I don't reddit but I do lurk....

This is an unorganized brain dump of my thoughts on the deck. Pressed the playtest button above and goofed around with it a bit.

Anyone playing karametra knows how busted Whitemane Lion is. Thus I can make a logical guess that you purposely took it out. Mind you that for white+1 it is your most powerful ramp spell. Along with its friends Kor Skyfisher and Stonecloaker. I'm not saying you should run it, but maybe consider either that or stonecloaker if your play group has a lot of graveyard stuff happening.

One land to consider might be Mistveil Plains, I would only swap it in if you feel like you run out of threats.

37 lands might be too much? Maybe try 35-36 and see how you like it. You have karametra!

Lotus Cobra is another Tireless Provisioner which trigger off your general, I must suggest replacing Faeburrow Elder. That is partially preference and how you reason it is like this: if you feel like Tireless Provisioner is better than Faeburrow Elder it is time to swap in a cobra.

A tech swap might be Garruk's Uprising over Elemental Bond. For one if your trying to stompy them,, you should probably have more than 4 power. It also gives natural trample. The catch is it reduces your draw potential, which we can actually address.

How often does your Archangel of Thune go off? Do you feel its falling behind?

Cataclysmic Gearhulk is a potential alternate board wipe that gives you a creature. Tragic Arrogance does the same things, but you get to pick >:)

If you feel like your running out of ammo, Pokedex is worth trying out (Lifecrafter's Bestiary), Return of the Wildspeaker is a buff or draw, Garruk, Primal Hunter is draw or more creatures.

As for stompy bois, some I consider are Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (WARNING: High salt), Woodland Bellower (Tutor + body), Apex Devastator (goes brrrr). Shalai, Voice of Plenty (if your wide or get targeted a lot), Kaldra Compleat (high pressure, makes big thing bigger), Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar (Comes back and with a lot of lands hits hard), one of my favorite cards ever printed, "cute" swarm uhh... I mean Scute Swarm. (s)cute swarm goes nuts when you start dropping lands. Get the alt art for extra (s)cuteness.

Have fun!

Archon_Bel on Athenian Legacy

1 year ago

Krownvekta1

Whitemane Lion was in one of the first few drafts I made for this deck along with Stonecloaker. I think my reasoning for not including either of them or other bounce creatures is because I'd rather have flicker effects like Restoration Angel, Ephemerate, or Soulherder to get more mileage out of my value creatures without having to recast them.

I don't think I have a copy of God-Eternal Oketra, but I think it'd be worth considering in the future.

Magic_Faqs on Snapdax, the All Hunter

2 years ago

I would recommend adding in Whitemane Lion and/or Stonecloaker . They both can protect your mutated creature from a board wipe/targeted removal, while also giving you more opportunities for mutate triggers.

slayingmatt1234 on Karametra, God of Lands and Tokens

2 years ago

Hey, big Karametra fan myself, here's a bunch of great cards for her: Any creature that bounces itself on entry, like Whitemane Lion and Stonecloaker work great. Gives you free lands and triggers when Karametra is out. To go with that, God-Eternal Oketra a great on-creature-cast card out there and is worth getting.

Besides that, just generally having enchantments over other cards that don't give devotion is always good for turning on your theros gods. Having white gives you O-ring effects in Stasis Snare, Cast Out, etc you can use as removal. Green gives you enrampments like Omen of the Hunt and mana doublers. Once you have enough you can even splash some enchantresses like Eidolon of Blossoms to improve consistency. Hope this helps!

Raging_Squiggle on Chulane, Somewhat Competitive

2 years ago

I would add in some redundancies to the bouncing creatures. Man-o'-War, Dream Stalker, Kor Skyfisher, and Stonecloaker (especially good cause flash and also grave hate). Cloud of Faeries also does good work when comboing with Aluren and a bounce source.

Speaking of bounce sources, more redundancies! Words of Wind and Overburden (This card is important as it combos out with Shrieking Drake and is generally a strong card. You won't care about bouncing lands cause chulane will put it right back into play).

Now what to do with all the mana in the world you could want and all the casting you could want? Well, Aetherflux Reservoir and Brain Freeze come to mind. Also, Words of Wind doubles as a win con by bouncing everyone out of the game entirely. Similarly, Words of Wilding can give you as many bears as you want to swing with. These Word cards will help save that mandatory draw from Chulane as your deck empties out. (And on the chance your playgroup allows some UnCards, Crow Storm is quite the funny win con)

How are you gonna get these cards quickly and consistently though? A couple more draw engines wouldn't hurt. Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project are both strong when playing a "I must cast all the creatures" deck. Abundance and Rhystic Study aren't too bad either.

But, how to protect your stuff when you cast it? Prowling Serpopard should be in here to protect your creatures. He's a cat, he protec. Also, Gaddock Teeg strongly hates on any spell slinger deck.

Depending on your budget, Earthcraft should be in here. Otherwise, its budget, (but not nearly as good cousin) Cryptolith Rite could work too.

slayingmatt1234 on The Horde of Aboundance - Karametra EDH

2 years ago

I'm surprised you don't have Whitemane Lion in this deck. That card's self-bounce counts as a repeatable rampant growth with Karametra on board. I also run Stonecloaker since it also counts as incidental grave hate.

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