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Soulgorger Orgg
Creature — Nightmare Orgg
Trample
When Soulgorger Orgg enters the battlefield, you lose all but 1 life.
When Soulgorger Orgg leaves the battlefield, you gain life equal to the life you lost when it came into play.
Tylord2894 on If sacriffice Soulgorger Orgg to …
3 years ago
You would lose the game in this example.
When you start the resolve Greven's trigger, you sacrifice Soulgorger Orgg. The Orgg will trigger, but that trigger won't go onto the stack until after the Greven trigger has finished resolving. You then draw cards and lose life during the rest of the resolution of the Greven trigger, which puts you at a negative life total. After the Greven trigger resolves, state-based actions (SBAs) are checked and performed, this is when the game does its housekeeping. The game will see that you have less than one life and you will lose the game before the Orgg trigger is put onto the stack (triggers are put onto the stack after SBAs are done).
Hope this helps!!
OkamizFang on If sacriffice Soulgorger Orgg to …
3 years ago
Cast Soulgorger Orgg while Greven, Predator Captain is on field. I loose all but 1 life. I attack with Greven, Predator Captain and sac Soulgorger Orgg. Do i draw cards and loose life first or do i gain life first?
Coward_Token on Grixis!Zedruu
6 years ago
That's a pretty good angle too. I was going to suggest letting the permanent actually enter the battlefield under the control of an opponent to enable spicy stuff like Soulgorger Orgg, but then I realized it would take things a bit too far with Miss Phage
On that note, a balance question concerning my own card's Zedruu-Donate ability: Particularly from a casual point of view, is it an inherently degenerate concept for a player's commander to have the ability to easily and reliably give people permanents that are more or less lethal, like Immortal Coil, the aformentioned thrice-triggered (not activated, sorry) Demonic Pact, Nefarious Lich, Forbidden Crypt and Abyssal Persecutor (also plain old Lich I guess but it requires another lifeline to be safely donated), or is that no different from everything else that strongly encourages people to include enough removal? I know Zedruu herself already has Transcendence but that one can't always be used due to the goat's lifegain.
TheDeckMaker2300 on test 2
6 years ago
oh one more thing
if your brave enough to hurt you wallet
but this is a huge gamble Soulgorger Orgg or those "pay any amount of life" spells is all you need
oh the new Axis of Mortality will be cool to set someones life to just 1
TheDeckMaker2300 on test 2
6 years ago
no problem
so here we go with the others
first off seriously how come Platinum Angel isn't here? its a safety net
i notice Hive Mind is a card so this cycle should helphttp://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&name=+%5Bpact%5D&set=%7C%5B%22Future%20Sight%22%5D
Epic struggle
- Sprouting Phytohydra + Pestilence/Pyrohemia
- Saproling Symbiosis
- Mycoloth
- Storm Herd
- oh and all the token doublers Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession are the cheapest
Biovisionary
- Infinite Reflection
- Progenitor Mimic
- Rite of Replication this is the most important one
- Spitting Image
Laboratory Maniac
- Leveler
- Thought Lash
- Divining Witch/Demonic Consultation (also works with Approach of the Second Sun)
- Enter the Infinite
- Inverter of Truth
Near-Death Experience
- Worship
- Angel's Grace
- Soulgorger Orgg
- Sustaining Spirit
- Fortune Thief
- anything spell/permanent that involves paying any amount of life my favorite isMinion of the Wastes because this works with Mayael's Aria as well
Mayael's Aria
- Serra Avatar
- Progenitus (promo versions are only $5)
- Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage/Vampire Hexmage
- Primordial Hydra
Chance Encounter
just one thing Krark's Thumb
Darksteel Reactor/Azor's Elocutors/Helix Pinnacle
note: only proliferate
- Deepglow Skate (all other counter related stuff works too.)
- anything with proliferate Contagion Engine and Inexorable Tide are the best ones
- Kalonian Hydra (the ariel will work as well)
- Gilder Bairn
- Winding Constrictor
- if your are willing to spend this much money. Doubling Season but you can go without it
Celestial Convergence
two things Hex Parasite and Vampire Hexmage but i want to point this out puting it to zero doesn't cause it to trigger it has to be on upkeep for the winner to be decided from this.
Felidar Sovereign/Test of Endurance
the celestial convergence win con takes this as well
- Kambal, Consul of Allocation
- Fumigate
- Wall of Reverence (with that avatar i mentioned eariler you double your life every end step)
- Debt to the Deathless
- Any of the whenever one of your creatures ETB Soul Warden is the best one
Barren Glory
.- you have Banishing Light so the family members of this
- Kaervek's Spite trigger just before your turn
- Decree of Annihilation
Demonic Pact
just Bazaar Trader and Zedruu the Greatheartedand theres a few more enchantments you can do the exact same thing with Fractured Identity but you need platinum angel for a few of them thoughTriskaidekaphobia
nothing everything you need for this one is hereApproach of the Second sun
just a couple more tutors thats itlast but not leastMechanized Production/Hellkite tyrant
the biovisonary and epic struggle stuff works if the target is a creaturewelp hope this stuff helpsoh one more thing Fractured Identity it works with leveler just as well as phageTheDeckMaker2300 on Alternate Fun Conditions
6 years ago
I love alt wins
I will help you out
Approach of the Second Sun- Diabolic Tutor- Mystical Tutor
Barren Glory- Apocalypse (Oblivian ring the barren first)- Kaervek's Spite (same as apocalypse but just before your next turn.)- Decree of Annihilation (you know the drill)
Celestial Convergence- Hex Parasite (make sure you have the most first.)
Mayael's Aria- look at epic struggle- Serra Avatar
Near-Death Experience- Fortune Thief- Plunge into Darkness- Wall of Blood- Soulgorger Orgg
Test of Endurance/Felidar Sovereign- Beacon of Immortality- Wall of Reverence
Triskaidekaphobia- Tree of Perdition
Laboratory Maniac- Leveler- Demonic Consultation (say black lotus at end step and done and done)- Inverter of Truth- Doomsday
TheDeckMaker2300 on A win by any other name would smell as sweet
7 years ago
this may sound crazy but i got a idea for your deck
2 reason why im even suggesting stupid extra turn cards like this.
when you get a win con out like Soulgorger Orgg + Near-Death Experience then you play it the next upkeep you win
you can use it when you get Platinum Angel out it will counter the you lose the game part and never activate again.