Creature — Dragon
, Exile Runhorn Hellkite from your graveyard: Each player discards his or her hand, then draws seven cards.
|Want (3)||danleniumfalcon , darksteelgiant , Jebanator|
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|Commander 2016 (C16)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Runehorn Hellkite occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%
Runehorn Hellkite Discussion
2 months ago
Alright fair enough. I think it’s most of the way there already.
Personally, I don’t like Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind or The Locust God from my experience with The Mad King of Tristram. I prefer Runehorn Hellkite since most of my cards end up in the yard after a certain point. You’re not running Memory Jar, Wheel of Fortune, Chandra Ablaze, Incendiary Command (which I should see if I can squeeze back in) or Reforge the Soul though. These cards make your Liliana's Caress and Megrim way more impactful. There’s also that new shade that has the same ability on it too...Fell Specter.
2 months ago
I run a similar list but Jund. Gotta streamline that Primal Surge combo!
Temur Sabertooth 187 engine
Godo, Bandit Warlord for the small equipment package.
Combat Celebrant useful in my list but your angle of infect/double damage might be faster.
Chord of Calling could be Birthing Pod
Reclamation Sage should be Acidic Slime since you run Manglehorn already and hitting lands is crucial.
3 months ago
All could be good fun
4 months ago
There are some other "targets" for discard, but I don't think all of these are the best for you. I'll list each of them instead of loads of paragraphs.
Punishing Fire - Could be a replacement for Spit Flame but honestly that's up to you. Punishing Fire is technically more versatile since it hits any target and depending on the matchup it can be easier to retrieve. However, Spit Flame has an easier time removing creatures. This one more to just let you know exists.
Flamewake Phoenix - Again, a card that I'm mentioning just to let you know exists. Since most of your dragons have 4 or more power, you could easily get this card back from your graveyard but you would also deviate a bit from the draconic theme.
Ore-Scale Guardian - This one isn't a target himself, but he makes it more profitable for you to discard lands, specially if you end up being mana flooded.
Runehorn Hellkite - Can be used to refill your hand late game(?) and as he's no diffenrent from other dragons, there's no downside letting him rest in your grave until you active it's effect.
Fiery Temper - Basically adds 3 damage for one mana to all of your discard spells.
These are the monored option. I also have options that would actually require you to splash for black. These are, of course, not mandatory for you to run, but it's always good to get to know more cards.
Bladewing the Risen -A giant dragon that reanimates another one when it comes into play and also has the ability to pump all your dragons. Obviously he's not a target for discard himself. However, he can make other dragons more interesting to discard.
Boneyard Scourge - Pretty simple. Dump him into the graveyard and when one of your dragons die, you get him back for a really cheap cost.
Bone Dragon - A recurrable dragon that can be left in the grave until the late game when it can come back multiple times, assuming you have enough cards in the grave.
In case you consider any of these black cards or you just don't feel confortable not bein able to cast the Thralls, there are a few budget lands that can help you with the mana. Also, the Haven of the Spirit Dragon could help you cast the black dragons but not activate their abilities.
About the cuts for the Thralls, you are still above 60 cards. There are some other cuts you can also make.
Dragonspeaker Shaman - They're quite expensive and you already have a pretty decent amount of "ramp" and cost discounts. Even more, they're really easy to kill.
Slumbering Dragon - He seems quite tempting to play as he can grow a lot. However, that's the problem, he CAN grow but nothing guarantees he will. Also, only one in the deck won't help at all.
Sarkhan's Triumph - Since you now have more card draw, you could maybe cut one of these.
5 months ago
Some suggested additions for the time being, don't necessarily need them all:
- Get yourself to 36 Lands
Maybe add a mountain or two in place of the other basics, just to make sure you actually draw a red source and can cast Nekusar.
- Folio of Fancies
- Magus of the Wheel
- Dragon Mage
- Dark Deal
- Runehorn Hellkite
- Wheel of Fate
- Dimir Signet
- Izzet Signet
- Rakdos Signet
- Mind Stone (any kind of 2cmc mana rock is generally better, it's faster mana, gets your gameplan going quicker)
Wayfarer's Bauble (I have a spare I can give you)
- Drown in the Loch - you are wheeling so graveyards should full enough that you can reliably cast this
- Kess, Dissident Mage - she can recast you wheels and draw spells
- Psychosis Crawler - will be effective if you run more wheels instead of "target player draws x cards"
9 months ago
If you "accidentally" wheel a Runehorn Hellkite , you can exile it for another wheel effect.
Cyclonic Rift , while always a good/evil card in any blue deck, is really sweet when you give everyone back their nonland permanents and then wheel them away.
You should include fetchlands and a Crucible of Worlds . It will help filter your deck and get back any lands that found their way into the grave.
9 months ago
I know you're looking for non-wheel card draw. I don't love cantrips in EDH unless there is a number-of-spells-matters effect in play but they can smooth out a deck a bit. Ponder , Preordain , Portent , Sleight of Hand , Serum Visions , etc. The sweet spot in around 3-5 CMC for me, ideally drawing CMC -1 but there aren't a ton of spells that efficient. I don't love Divination in EDH (2 for 3) but it's the gold-standard in 60-card decks for a quickie hand refill. There are tons of efficient cards like Divination too.
There are a ton of "draw 3, discard 1" for 4 or 5 mana, which are okay. Sift , Trial of Knowledge , and Amass the Components , for example. Many are costed for being commons, which isn't where you wanna be in EDH. There should be plenty of good, efficient cards to draw from though. At the same time, you have a lot of great high-CMC draw, like Consecrated Sphinx and Thought Reflection, so having a few Divination effects might smooth out your draws.
Some suggestions: Concentrate , Windfall , Cathartic Reunion , Plea for Power , Tidings , Nin, the Pain Artist , Finale of Revelation , Mind Spring , Braingeyser , Stroke of Genius , Blue Sun's Zenith , Fact or Fiction , Chart a Course , Ugin's Insight , Treasure Cruise , Dig Through Time , Kumena's Awakening , Fevered Visions , Honden of Seeing Winds , Reverse Engineer , Read the Runes , Precognitive Perception , Distant Memories , Arcane Encyclopedia , Endless Atlas , Trail of Evidence , Theft of Dreams , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Kefnet the Mindful , Cavalier of Gales , Combustible Gearhulk , Thassa, God of the Sea , Shared Discovery , Secrets of the Golden City , Vivisection , Weight of Memory , Recurring Insight , Breakthrough , Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Deep Analysis , Gush , Invoke the Firemind , Expansion / Explosion , Chandra, Flamecaller , Dragon Mage , Wild Guess , Tormenting Voice , Arch of Orazca , Runehorn Hellkite , Conqueror's Galleon Flip, Kraum, Ludevic's Opus , Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist , Commune with Lava .
9 months ago
Interesting idea! Some things to consider:
You might also like these cards: Bag of Holding , Dimir Machinations (transmutes for necropotence), Tectonic Reformation , Street Wraith , Treasonous Ogre , Archfiend of Ifnir , Bone Miser , Alhammarret's Archive , Brainspoil (transmutes for alham's archive), Illusionist's Bracers , Mindmoil , Bolas's Citadel , Skirge Familiar , Shred Memory (for transmuting, especially for Shadow of the Grave! digging for Shadow seems paramount), archfiend of spite, curse of fool's wisdom, Gamble , Words of Waste , Geth's Grimoire , Waste Not , Burning Inquiry , Dark Deal , Reforge the Soul , Khorvath's Fury , Incendiary Command , Runehorn Hellkite , Memory Jar , Uba Mask , Bedlam Reveler .
I'm sure you can make room for some of these by removing some of those extra Muck Drubbs and Tainted Pacts :P