Pay No Heed
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3 months ago
Good Afternoon, Hope everyone is doing well.
I've amassed the following cards for specifically a soldier-themed deck, but I'm having trouble narrowing down the list for an appropriate deck, so I'd like to request advice and assistance. The general idea was to summon a bunch of soldier tokens, buff them, defeat opponents, but I keep stumbling into cards that would be 'cool' or 'awesome' with the theme. Here are the cards I am looking at:
Legendary Cards (Potential Commanders) Akroma, Vision of Ixidor (Synergy with Odric) Baird, Steward of Argive (Good delay) Brimaz, King of Oreskos (Cheap commander that produces soldiers) Darien, King of Kjeldor (decent way of making soldiers, expensive) Keleth, Sunmane Familiar (only for partner) Lena, Selfless Champion Mikaeus, the Lunarch Nahiri, the Lithomancer Odric, Lunarch Marshal Odric, Master Tactician Prava of the Steel Legion Thalia, Heretic Cathar Trynn, Champion of Freedom
Normal Cards Abzan Falconer (synergy with Mikaeus) Adaptive Automaton (buffs soldiers) Ainok Bond-Kin (synergy with Mikaeus) Ancestral Blade (2 for a 2/2 creature seems good, especially if I can re-assign it to Auriok Steelshaper) Angel's Feather (Life gain) Angel's Grace (emergency + synergy with Darien)(Isochron Scepter) Anointed Procession (Double tokens, yes) Anointer Priest (life gain for tokens, seems good) Auriok Steelshaper (seems like good synergy with the equipment in the deck, if they're included. Otherwise, might toss this out) Aven Brigadier (Might toss this) Aysen Crusader (P/T based on soldiers? Yes please) Ballyrush Banneret (cheaper soldier spells) Basri Ket (Synergy with Abzan Falconer and Ainok Bond-Kin)(Produces Soldier Tokens) Benalish Commander (Roundabout way of producing soldiers) Bounty Agent (Neat way of dealing with certain cards) Call the Coppercoats (Produces soldiers) Captain of the Watch (Produces soldiers, buffs soldiers) Captain's Call (Produces soldiers) Catapult Master (Neat way of exiling enemy creatures) Cenn's Enlistment (produces soldiers, retrace) Commanding Presence (roundabout way of producing soldiers) Conclave Phalanx (can easily be a free creature + free life gain) Congregate (good life gain) Conqueror's Pledge (produces soldiers) Coordinated Barrage (meshes with soldiers well. Isochron Scepter) Crusader of Odric (can get really tough and powerful, might be worth cutting though) Daru Stinger (Could be really potent) Daru Warchief (cheaper spells, buffs soldiers, seems good) Dawn of Hope (good synergy with life gains, produces soldiers with lifelink) Daysquad Marshal (produces 1 soldier token, only really good with other buffs/cost reductions) Decree of Justice (mostly just to cycle it) Deploy to the Front (Great way of expanding ranks of soldiers) Devout Invocation (This is basically a win condition) Door of Destinies (buffs soldiers) Elspeth Tirel (makes soldiers, gain life, emergency nuke) Elspeth, Knight-Errant (makes soldiers, indestructable emblem) Elspeth, Sun's Champion (produces soldiers, cool emblem) Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis (makes soldiers or gain life, neat concept) Enlistment Officer (Good way of thinning the deck) Entrapment Maneuver (produces soldiers while protecting yourself, smidge situational) Erase (cheap removal. Isochron Scepter) Evangel of Heliod (produces soldiers, potential for lots of soldiers) Even the Odds (Nice way of getting emergency troops) Fairgrounds Warden (cool removal) Field Marshal (buffs soldiers) Fiend Binder (cool removal) Finale of Glory (basically a win condition) First Response (Nice way of benefitting from small attackers, I think) Garrison Cat (produces 1 soldier token, effectively replacing itself, might be worth cutting) Gideon, Ally of Zendikar (only really here for the emblem and possibly getting buffed on attacks) Gift of Estates (Land is always a problem for me, good deck thinning) Glorious Anthem (buff) God-Favored General (produces soldiers, albeit a bit expensive) Haazda Marshal (neat soldier producer, makes lifelink soldiers) Hero of Bladehold (battlecry + soldier producer, great with Haazda Marshal) Holy Day (defensive spell, Isochron Scepter) Honor of the Pure (buff) Hunted Witness (replaces itself with a soldier, cheap, might cut though) Intangible Virtue (buffs tokens) Intrepid Hero (Great removal, lots of great memories, nostalgic for me, etc) Isochron Scepter (Keep using certain Instants as needed) Join the Ranks (a bit expensive but makes soldiers) Journey to Nowhere (removal) Keeper of the Accord (really cool card, definitely helps with soldiers and lands) Knight-Captain of Eos (basically a holy day by sacrificing a soldier, seems really good) Land Tax (Land is always a problem) Launch the Fleet (produces soldiers, great with Odric, Haazda Marshal, Hero of Bladehold, Brimaz, etc) Leyline of the Meek (Neat little buff) Lieutenants of the Guard (neat mechanic, might cut) Loxodon Partisan (battlecry, might cut) Loyal Sentry (neat concept, cheap) Makeshift Battalion (diet battlecry) Marble Diamond (might be good) Marshal's Anthem (neat card, might be beneficial in a pinch) Martial Coup (great removal + producing soldiers) Mentor of the Meek (card draw from soldiers) Militia Bugler (decent deck-thinning, might cut since its only top four) Militia's Pride (produces soldiers, lots of good synergy) Mobilization (decent buff, built-in soldier producer, tad expensive) Mother of Runes (utility, might cut) Murder Investigation (neat little way of producing soldiers, depends) Ninth Bridge Patrol (neat way of benefitting from tokens getting destroyed) Nomads' Assembly (huge potential) Oath of Lieges (Land is always a problem) Oathsworn Giant (expensive, but decent buff) Oblivion Ring (Removal) Omen of the Sun (produces soldiers, little life gain, scry later, flash, generally good) Palace Guard (cool card) Paragon of New Dawns (buffs soldiers) Path to Exile (Removal) Patrol Signaler (roundabout way of producing soldiers, might cut) Pay No Heed (cheap defense, Isochron Scepter) Pearl Medallion (cheaper spells is always better) Pennon Blade (make something huge, kinda expensive though, might cut) Phantom General (buffs tokens) Precinct Captain (cheap, produces soldiers for attacking, decent synergy) Preeminent Captain (free cast, depending upon circumstances, decent synergy) Proper Burial (decent life gain) Raise the Alarm (cheap soldiers, Isochron Scepter) Ranger of Eos (only useful if I have a lot of cheap creatures) Reborn Hero (neat concept, can bring it back) Rebuff the Wicked (neat counter) Recruit the Worthy (cheap soldiers, Isochron Scepter) Recruiter of the Guard (decent search) Remember the Fallen (might cut, decent card) Resurrection (decent way of bringing back an expensive creature) Return to the Ranks (potentially free method of bringing cards back) Reverent Hoplite (potentially lots of soldiers) Rhox Pikemaster (Decent buff) Righteous Cause (Decent buff, tad expensive) Riot Control (neat life gain, defense) Rootborn Defenses (defense, makes a soldier, neat) Safe Passage (defense) Selfless Squire (interesting utility, might cut) Sergeant-at-Arms (can create soldiers, seems expensive though) Shielded Passage (neat little defense, Isochron Scepter) Sol Ring (obvious reasons) Soul Parry (decent defense, Isochron Scepter) Soul Snare (neat way to keep up devotion + have something on hand to deal with a creature) Soulmender (cheap creature, life gain, might cut) Standing Troops (decent card, might cut) Stormfront Riders (expensive way of producing soldiers, flying, might cut) Strata Scythe (make something huge, might cut) Strength of Arms (decent way of making soldiers, Isochron Scepter) Sword of the Meek (decent way of bringing it back from graveyard, might cut though) Sworn Companions (lifelink soldiers) Terminus (nice clutch card) Thraben Standard Bearer (cheap soldier, can be good for creating defenders in a pinch) Timely Reinforcements (neat for emergencies) True Conviction (huge buff) Unified Strike (exile based on number of soldiers, isochron scepter) Unruly Mob (might cut) Valor (easy way to get first strike) Veteran Armorer (buff, might cut) Veteran Armorsmith (buff, might cut) Veteran Swordsmith (buff, might cut) Veteran's Armaments (decent synergy, might cut) War Report (good life gain) Wing Shards (neat card, might cut) Worship (synergizes with Darien)
Lands Drifting Meadow (cycling) Emeria, The Sky Ruin (awesome card if I can get 7 plains) Karoo (neat little card, not sure if worth it) 28x Plains New Benalia (neat card, not sure if worth it) Nykthos, Shrine of Nyx (white deck, probably a good call) Secluded Steppe (cycling)
Thank you for your time and attention.
1 year ago
Looks pretty good! How's it been playing?
I like the inclusion of Blast Zone , and overall, I'm jealous that you managed to find room for 26 lands, which is 2 more than I can could fit in.
If you're facing burn, a sideboard with Riot Control , Pay No Heed , and/or Sanctimony might be worth considering. Nevermore might also be a powerful tool against many threats. It also occurs to me this sort of deck is maybe 50/50 against mill, putting so many cards into the graveyard and drawing/thinning like crazy. So Elixir of Immortality might be worth considering for the SB, too.
1 year ago
First of all, I like the flavor here.
I really like Beast Within in Defender decks, as most Defenders are 0/4 or tougher. It's so useful against pretty much everything.
Colossus of Akros is arguably a better win-con than Stormtide Leviathan, which won't end the game the turn it swings and is more easily removed. The Leviathan does add a lot more flavor though, and it's tutor-able with Grozoth, so I can see why you're running it and I'm not suggesting you make a change there.
You've got a lot of land here and a lot of mana-dorks. I think you can cut 1-2 lands.
Following the mana-base, in my humble opinion, the two weakest creatures currently included: Jaddi Offshoot and Wall of Roots. Because Axebane and Battlement depend on other Defenders to be really powerful, it's good to have as many solid 1-2CMC Defenders as a possible. I like Wall of Tanglecord because it gives you reach, and with Assault Formation, it's effectively a 6/6. Steel Wall is also pretty good - because it's colorless, you will always be able to cast it on T1, and because it's 0/4, it's harder to remove. Wall of Blossoms is decent for 2CMC, and in my opinion, better than Wall of Roots, which only gives you 1 mana per turn, and only lasts a max of 5 turns while also becoming less and less useful as a blocker.
One major problem I encounter with Defender decks is staying in the game against decks that don't rely on creatures for damage. Stuff like burn, mill, infinite combos, etc can be really difficult to deal with. Therefore, something like Pay No Heed or Riot Control would be useful. Unfortunately, there are no non-combat "fogs" in green that I'm aware of. I see that you've included some counterspells, which will definitely help, but won't necessarily keep you in the game against a barrage of burn spells, etc. There are some other notable spells in white that would be very strong, namely Slaughter the Strong , which my play-mates absolutely abhor. Also a slew of decent Defenders like Perimeter Captain and Wall of Omens . While it's pretty risky to run 3 colors in a budget deck, between the Caryatids and Axebanes, it's a little more possible. Seaside Citadel would also be useful in this regard.
Quest for Renewal might be useful, as it will untap all your dorks on opponent's turns, giving you a lot more blocking power.
++ for Fog Bank. Love that critter.
1 year ago
With Weathered Wayfarer , I think it's drawback would keep it from being played due to this deck's ability to get more lands out than the opponent most of the time. I usually use Maze's End 's ability to tutor gates out. But that means four lands getting tapped and Maze's End going back to my hand. I had Gatecreeper Vine in here at one time. Walking Atlas , Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Oracle of Mul Daya , and Golos, Tireless Pilgrim can all help get even more lands out. Reap and Sow is kind of expensive, but can get out a land while setting your opponent back one, or maybe even a 1x Primeval Titan would help by getting two lands out. Amulet of Vigor can negate the drawbacks of a lot of these cards. There are a lot of options.
Reliquary Tower is a good idea. I like Crucible of Worlds but I don't usually have to discard my lands. When I have to discard it's usually artifacts that end up there. (Usually extra copies of Amulet of Vigor or Chromatic Lantern that I don't have mana to use.)
I agree with taking out Chromatic Lantern . I added those cards back when I first made this deck on here and I thought I'd need them as extra mana fixing and to "smooth out" my mana base. They don't work well though. They're terrible to draw after turn 4 or so.
I'm going to leave the Amulet of Vigor s as they are right now. They're great to have one in your opening hand and even late game they can help out. The only drawback is the fact that you only need one and the others will be dead draws. (Unless your opponent is destroying them. Then the extra is very helpful.)
Maybe some anti - Blood Moon ? That card is bad news for this deck. Chromatic Lantern did help with that, but that's very situational. I just looked at the rulings and Blood Moon does not change their name. It would however, nuke Maze's End . Good thing my only basic lands are Plains .
1 year ago
I think Pay No Heed is pretty good against a lot of burn. I like splitting 4 slots between it and Riot Control, as the lifegain from Riot Control can be pretty useful in long games.
Perhaps Weathered Wayfarer would help tutor up some Gates?
I'm not sure Chromatic Lantern is all the necessary. In 1v1, you only need to cast 1 Fog, so I'd imagine it wouldn't be that hard to get 1x G or W mana producing land down.
1 year ago
I usually see a lot of Fog spells paired with Approach. Riot Control is one of my favorite Fogs because it's one of very few that prevents burn and it gains you life, too. Pay No Heed is another spell to prevent burn. Ethereal Haze and Holy Day are also options.
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt Growth Spiral at Instant speed is worth the multicolor CMC - Explore would be fine at Sorcery speed. That said I don't think either is particularly good. You'd get more mana-mileage out of Fertile Ground .
I consider Negate one of the best counterspells in the game. You can use removal for everything it doesn't work on. ( Celestial Flare , Blessed Alliance , Beast Within , Generous Gift , Imprisoned in the Moon , Pongify , Ratchet Bomb ) Declaration of Naught might be useful to get your devotion up.
I hope some of this has been helpful!!
2 years ago
- Nyxborn Shieldmate for Boros Reckoner both better creatures and reckoner works amazing with lightmines if u decide to add it
- Palace Guard for Archetype of Aggression
- Darksteel Plate for Whispersilk Cloak since your guys are invincible anyways. this also deters them from being targeted.. boardwipes will still work though.
- Stoneforge Masterwork for Tenza, Godo's Maul if up u this on ur commander hes a 10/7 menance with trample, seems like a better piece
- Armory of Iroas - Sunforger costs a few more mana but u have alot of tricks u can pull out of it for free late game
- Staff of Nin for Mind's Eye
- Avacyn's Collar for Spear of Heliod upgrades all ur doods and makes people scared to attack you
- Manalith for Commander's Sphere an upgrade
- Act of Treason for Faithless Looting card draw with flashback seems always good
- Mass Mutiny - Mob Rule seems like an upgrade
- Miraculous Recovery - Settle the Wreckage amazing board wipe, can really put you ahead. if not interested in a board wipe id suggest maybe a single target removal like Chaos Warp . i feel like you need ways to deal with high pressure threats
- Pay No Heed - Deflecting Palm
- Righteousness for Fight to the Death i know these two cards arent related, but how hilarious would it be to cast this when someone else is combating another player, basically can wipe two players boards if timed proper. if u would prefer to keep a combat trick here i would suggest maybe Gods Willing or something that does not require the creature to be blocking
- Smite - Ride Down
- Warleader's Helix - Savage Beating or Ajani Vengeant i feel helix doesnt provide enough value, for removal it is very weak , if u want good removal to replace this instead of a threats i listed, i would consider Oblivion Ring type cards
- Martial Glory - Boros Charm charm is must include, so much value! protect from boardwipes including land destruction! removal or maybe boost ur commander after blocks with a double strike if some1 is already been hit once and hello 21 commander dmg
2 years ago
Oblivion Ring is incredibly useful. Highly recommend.
This deck is close to Pauper. Might be worth considering going in that direction instead of Modern.
Love Riot Control - I don't know if people realize this, but it's one of very few spells that say "prevent all damage" vs "prevent all combat damage. That makes RC waaaay more useful! And you get to gain life! Wow!! In that same vein of though. you might consider Pay No Heed over Shielded Passage .
I think Oppressive Rays is better than Pacifism . Lower CMC and it disrupts activated abilities. In my experience, people seem to subconciously consider creatures I've enchanted with OR as completely non-functional. 3 is just too high a cost - in most cases people will get more out of 3 mana just playing new spells.
Suture Priest might be worth considering.
You've got a decent number of Enchantments going. Ethereal Armor might be worth considering.
Mentor of the Meek would probably draw you some cards. I hate the cost, but it repeatable.