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Rules Q&A
Mind Funeral
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals cards from the top of his or her library until four land cards are revealed. That player puts all cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard.
Venum on
God flippin' librairies upside-down [PRIMER]
5 days ago
NV_1980 ,
Those are all awesome recommendations.
For Mind Funeral , i hesitated a long time between that card and Mind Grind and opted for the later since it targets all opponent. It makes creatures like Cruel Somnophage much bigger and faster.
Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker and Guiltfeeder will 100% fin their place in the deck, just gotta find what to cut.
As for the enchantments, I don't know how I never thought of them. Now i can see Tree of Perdition milling out people in one turn.
Wildly appreciate your take on the take ! Thanks a lot
NV_1980 on
God flippin' librairies upside-down [PRIMER]
5 days ago
Nice mill deck. Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker is absolute murder against decks that can't block fliers. On a simlar note, Mind Funeral is also a great mill-spell (usually mills much more than four cards). I would also heartily recommend Guiltfeeder; it's complete murder against opponents that have already been milled a bunch. Lastly, Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura are awesome when tapping for mill.
SufferFromEDHD on
Ultra mill
3 months ago
Sadistic Sacrament removing 15 lands greatly increases the odds of Mirko Vosk/Mind Funeral/Mind Grind
Induce Paranoia > Cancel
Didn't Say Please > Neutralize
wallisface on
U/B Mill
10 months ago
Mill decks only ever want to be running Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab as creatures. Any other options are just not helpful or conductive towards winning. Specifically:
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both Consuming Aberration and Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker cost such a high amount of mana that the game should already be over (mill decks should be aiming to win by turn 4). and both barely does any amount of actual milling for their egregious costs.
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Duskmantle Guildmage is only useful as a combo card with Mindcrank. On its own it's basically useless. If you are doing the Mindcrank combo then there's no real reason to run any other mill cards.
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Fog Bank does nothing and gives your opponent more time to overwhelm you or assemble their combo.
Other cards that i'd suggest are bad choices:
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Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver does very little for its cost. milling 3 cards for 3 mana is a very slow rate.
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Fraying Sanity is a massive trap card that a lot of casual mill players fall into. In almost all cases it doesn't speed up the clock for you beating your opponent.
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All of Mind Grind, Increasing Confusion, Mind Funeral, and Pilfered Plans just do faar too little for their mana cost. Memory Sluice is also a really bad return unless you can really reliably trigger it's Conspire ability.
I would suggest looking at cards like Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter *list*. Archive Trap is also a mill-must-have, but may be less-useful if your playgroup isn't using fetchlands. Jace, the Perfected Mind is also serviceable as a planeswalker.
Your deck also really needs some interaction - mill decks are typically too slow to out-race aggro and combo, so you need options to make sure you slow those decks down enough to win the race. Options normally include Drown in the Loch, Fatal Push, and Surgical Extraction
wallisface on
Surgical Forfeit
1 year ago
mooffalosystema i have played a load of competitive mill, winning tourney with it, and know full-well the ins-and-outs of competitive play.
If you do the math on Mind Funeral you’ll find that it is absolutely terrible when compared to almost all other 2-and-3 mana mill spells. There’s a very good reason no competitive builds ever run that card.
Indiscriminate discard is always worse than being able to target and remove the card that actually poses a threat. There will be a bunch of games where Inquisition is only able to grab the cards the opponent doesn’t really card about. Not being able to grab a Sheoldred, the Apocalypse or Scion of Draco or Murktide Regent or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is a massive mistake when these are all very-commonly seen threats.
Your assessment of Lazotep Plating baffles me. It only temporarily stalls some combo decks, and feels negligible anywhere else. I think Storm is the only deck that would ever need to be cautious of this card, and nobodies playing Storm atm anyway cause it’s bad. If your local playgroup somehow validates this cards existence, it’s still only a sideboard card at-best (and even then, a terrible one - there’s sooo many better options!).
wallisface on
Surgical Forfeit
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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Lazotep Plating seems really underwhelming considering you have no permanents outside of lands, so all you're really making is a piddly 1/1 army to act as block-fodder. Why not something more impactful here?
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Why Inquisition of Kozilek instead of Thoughtseize? Particularly in any midrange/control matchup, Inquisition of Kozilek just doesn't hit enough targets. But even in combo decks there's a lot of high-mana cards you'd really be needing to hit.
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Mind Funeral is possibly the most underwhelming mill card out there - there are a LOT better options.
NV_1980 on
Scarabian Nights
1 year ago
During play-testing, I noticed this deck is relatively slow. In most tests, I couldn't cast anything meaningful before turn five. Not sure if this is an issue in your meta, but it would be in mine.
My advice would be to:
- Reduce the average CMC of your card-base. More than half of the cards you're using is CMC4 or more. Here are some nice mill-ideas that have a relatively low CMC (and are also cheap to obtain at vendors): Fractured Sanity, Glimpse the Unthinkable, Memory Erosion, Mind Funeral, Mind Grind, Psychic Corrosion, Sphinx's Tutelage.
- Include some more mana sources. Some ideas would include Dark Ritual, Dimir Signet, Realmbreaker, the Invasion Tree, Talisman of Dominance.
- Include some more zombie cards instead of most of your current creature base so that you can increase the synergy with regard to Scarab God's primary ability.
Good luck with the build.
wallisface on
Mill deck
2 years ago
Some thoughts:
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mill decks never want to run any creatures other than Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab. All these other creatures you’re running do nothing to help you mill, and end up being anti-synergies in your deck (you’re unlikely to win through combat damage, and by having these cards you’re just ruining your chances to win by milling either).
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some of your mill cards are super sub-optimal. For instance Tome Scour is the equivalent of running Shock in a burn deck - both cards too to little to get the job done and just end up leaving you empty-handed while your opponent is still alive. Same goes for Mind Funeral… it does too little for its investment. Better options include Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter.
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You currently have no form of interaction, which means you’re just going to get stomped on… even the fastest mill decks can’t outpace typical aggro/combo decks, and need to buy themselves time. I would expect to see cards like Fatal Push, Extirpate/Surgical Extraction, Drown in the Loch, and Crypt Incursion here.
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