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Mana Maze Discussion
3 days ago
I've played it a few times. It's the only time its appropriate to be a rules shark.
Cards that work best are cards that trigger often and can trigger on other people's turns, cards that mess with the stax, cards with wonky wording and cards that make players draw multiple cards in one turn; people can usually handle 1 cast or trigger but when they get a full grip that's when things get fun
Possibility Storm - you already mentioned this one
7 months ago
Surge of Righteousness to get rid of red creatures.
Chill to tax red cards.
Baleful Stare to draw a lot of cards.
don't forgot some neutral cards like Path to Exile , Swords to Plowshares , and Grasp of Fate just in case you aren't playing against red guys. If you want to keep the theme of color hose, Mana Maze and Drought are fun.
Finally, if you want to drop 400 dollars against your friend. Invoke Prejudice .
I hope that helps.
1 year ago
First things first: All EDH decks need ramp. Unfortunately for UB decks, most of the ramp in the game is in green or occasionally red (see Orcish Lumberjack ). That means artifacts are the way to go. I advise Dimir Signet , Talisman of Dominance and MindStone (maybe) as relatively affordable cards you can use for ramp; but since you're running Mox Diamond , I might as well mention Grim Monolith and Mox Opal . Your artifact count is a little low for the opal, though, but that may change as the deck evolves.
I see you've included Changeling Outcast . Consider running Mothdust Changeling as another evasive, one-drop ninja. Mist-Syndicate Naga and Silent-Blade Oni are excellent ninjas as well; you should at least consider Throatseeker . Baleful Strix is another creature to consider, as returning it to your hand with ninjutsu allows you to draw more than one card with it after you cast it additional times. It is also hard to block, and can make a formidable blocker on its own.
Cavern of Souls is an excellent include, if you have access to it. It's usually a lot more integral, but you'll likely be using the ninjutsu ability most of the time rather than casting your guys. Still, keep it in mind.
Running Jace, the Mind Sculptor seems good here, though he is over $100 nowadays; I must admit I am having a hard time determining the deck's budget, mostly because of the Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt . Note also that, as you're already including Sensei's Divining Top , Scroll Rack and potentially Jace, the Mind Sculptor , you can consider running Counterbalance . Counterbalance is generally a high-variance card in EDH, but I've had some success with it in the past.
In my Tasigur, the Golden Fang deck, I run a similar combo-kill of casting Nexus of Fate repeatedly with an otherwise empty library. I use Tainted Pact to get rid of my library, running a single basic and snow basic of each type. Crafting your mana base carefully might allow you to run Tainted Pact too -- give thought to lands like Ancient Tomb , Cephalid Coliseum or Cabal Pit . If that doesn't work, Demonic Consultation with Nexus of Fate in hand is also good.
If your meta is filled with combo decks (I know mine is), Arcane Laboratory is a good option, especially since ninjutsu isn't an alternate casting cost; Mana Maze is similar. Dispel is a counter-counter spell I've found tremendously useful, especially since it can stop an opposing ad nauseum right away.
Raven's Crime seems like a good way to use up excess lands you draw.
Not sure how much I like Aether Vial in an EDH deck. Yes, your creature-curve is low and very consistent, but drawing it later in the game, especially if you're behind, has all the feel-bad-ness in the world. Maybe Leyline of Anticipation is better? It allows all your spells to go in at instant speed, flips for an extra three damage off a Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow trigger, and can begin the game occasionally on the table for free. Yes, it is still dead if drawn late, but it isn't AS dead in that it immediately takes full effect; Aether Vial requires two or three turns to become powerful, and then only works with creatures.
Time Stretch is an extra-turn card to consider, though it may be too expensive to cast.
Mystic Remora is good in most blue decks, especially if your opening hand is otherwise slow. Players have to either play around it, which slows the game enough for you to catch up, or play into it, which can easily make it an Ancestral Recall . I personally think it is a better card than Rhystic Study , if only because by T3 you probably want to be doing other things with your mana.
Thirst for Knowledge , Painful Truths , Chart a Course , Notion Thief and Night's Whisper are all worth considering as efficient draw-engines. Notion Thief feels especially brutal when cast as a response to an opposing Brainstorm .
Ok man -- that's all I got. Good luck with deck building!
1 year ago
You seem to be running two copies of Voltaic Key ... I don't think that's allowed in EDH.
If you're playing Mono-Blue good stuff, I highly suggest Mystic Remora as a source of early card advantage.
In mono-blue, you might want to consider Back to Basics .
I don't think you should run Bonehoard , because your general counters the first equip activation.
Strip Mine is useful as a 1-of effect to take out The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale or other obnoxious lands. I don't think you need the Wasteland as well; you may have more luck with just a basic Island , especially if you choose to run Back to Basics .
Consecrated Sphinx is good as a value blue card. The card advantage is just nuts.
Good luck with deck building!
1 year ago
Why even call it Cedh when it's just an edh deck with sub-optimal card choices.
What is the reason for running Forbidden Orchard in a two-color deck (you're not going to tell me it's necessary for color fixing when you're on two colors...)
Gush -> Delve draw cards or the pull from something is way better than this... even though it's funny you can and others can't it is not a card to run outside of doomsday piles... or monoblue 1v1 decks...
Illumination ? why hamstring yourself with super specific counters?
Pact of Negation Not a fan of the card outside of fast combo decks...
Rushing River what in the?
AEther Barrier Doesn't really do anything.
Blind Obedience What are those! doesn't do anything for you!
Frozen AEther What are those! doesn't do anything for you!
Kismet What are those! doesn't do anything for you!
Mana Maze so you also block yourself?
Orb of Dreams cool! and?
Static Orb no benefit, no way to make it asymmetrical, no reason to run it!
Ward of Bones jank stuff!
Winter Orb no benefit, no way to make it asymmetrical, no reason to run it!
Thalia, Heretic Cathar Again the absolute mad lad with the anti-aggro cards for CEDH deck...
2 years ago
Alright rockleemyhero I went through your binder and did find a few things id like to have. Your Japanese Brainstorm, Dig Through Time Impending Disaster the Static Orb Phyrexian Altar Show and Tell Mana Maze and the duel deck Jace Beleren All of these or any combination are fine just kind of let me know what youre looking to let go of and im sure we can work something out!
2 years ago
Well of Knowledge if you pay a fee we will grant you a bonus card for your draw step
Avenger en-Dal once per turn and only during combat but we got a machine gun of exile attackers
Spiritual Asylum let's buy some time to get ready for battle shall we
Kill Switch holy crud the breya ramp is getting to fast ...HIT THE EMEGENCY STOP QUICK!!!
Detritivore delicious nonbasic land removal that's untouchable and the chances of targets being on the field same odds of finding a cow on a field near a farm
Mana Maze oh that's evil star especially since I'm using it in eldrazi decks with devoid cards wich is a loop hole around this.
Hammer Mage a driver for the street sweeper of artifact cards in play
Volcanic Wind hmmmm only six to do easily atleast 20+ damage to creatures and sweep...amazing
Once a upon a time someone just cast Wrath of God esc card then all the sudden I play Natural Affinity then after resolve I cast Eerie Interlude or Teferi's Protection and either resolve every one surrenders and possible a table flip happens because now it sweeps the lands and creatures excepts mine the end.
Soulquake a board sweep and group hug at the same time sweet
Sages of the Anima and this isn't a Animar staple because?
Fight to the Death hey I also played a all creatures are forced to block a particular creature escape card earlier board sweep for one player
Balancing Act is that what I... IT IS!!!
A LOOP HOLE OF PLAYING Balance !!!
Teferi's Protection your board then they have to sacrifice all the permanents
Well hope you like my stuff might have more in the future
2 years ago
@TheRedGoat Well I quickly got bored with my list which is just full of draw/counter/equipment so I'm pretty stoked to try slowing down the game as a way of keeping my hand full and getting opportunities to swing in. I have dreams of getting Psychosis Crawler out, casting Sunder and then Windfall with Twincast...
I'm a bit worried about Mana Maze. On one hand it basically keeps people from countering anything I play, but it restricts me from dealing with another blue player. Arcane Laboratory is a ballsy enchantment to play as a monoblue player, and I'm sure I'll get frustrated with it, but I think I'll try it as well.