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Kindle the Carnage
Sorcery
Discard a card at random. If you do, Kindle the Carnage deals damage equal to that card's converted mana cost to each creature. You may repeat this process any number of times.
Batman18 on
The Carnage Patch Kids
1 year ago
Kindle the Carnage is at random. Is there something I'm missing?
Gandolfini on Raptor Hatchling and Kindle the …
1 year ago
If I have a Raptor Hatchling on the battlefield, and I cast Kindle the Carnage, discarding a card, then repeating the process 3 more times, for a total of four discards, would I get a total of four dinosaur creature tokens before Raptor Hatchling is sent to the graveyard? From Scryfall, the rules info on [Kindle the Carnage]] says: "A creature that’s been dealt lethal damage by an iteration of this effect will remain on the battlefield and be dealt more damage by any further iterations. After you stop, all creatures that have been dealt lethal damage are put into their owners’ graveyards at the same time. (2006-05-01)"
Dracoson on Does Spy Kit change the …
2 years ago
Apologies, but Neotrup is correct for the Kindle the Carnage part. My head was thrown for so much of a loop from silver border questions, I didn't properly answer the black border one right.
Neotrup on Does Spy Kit change the …
2 years ago
Kindle the Carnage deals the damage as part of its resolution, so cards dont have a chance to change zones after being discarded before the damage us dealt. If they're discarded to exile (due to madness or Rest in Peace) they'll still be there and their mana value won't change. If they're discarded to library (due to Wheel of Sun and Moon or being Darksteel Colossus) you'll use the mana value that was revealed when they changed zones.
Dracoson on Does Spy Kit change the …
2 years ago
As far as Over My Dead Bodies goes, it still wouldn't work. The act of discarding it will make it leave the battlefield, so if it was already attacking or blocking, the equipment would fall off, and OMDB will only let you interact with it via spells and abilities once it is declared as an attacker or blocker from the graveyard. There's just never a time when it is a creature on the battlefield during the resolution of Urza's Hot Tub's ability.
Now for Kindle the Carnage it depends on whether it was cast or not. When you discard a card with Madness (such as Fiery Temper), it goes to exile until you decide to cast it or not. If you cast it, it moves to the stack, and the LKI is from exile. If you chose not to, it goes to the graveyard, and there is a rule under madness that says it can be found. 702.35c After resolving a madness triggered ability, if the exiled card wasn’t cast and was moved to a public zone, effects referencing the discarded card can find that card. See rule 400.7i.. In either case, the mana value would be the same.
Yesterday on Does Spy Kit change the …
2 years ago
Ah, shoot. LKI from the graveyard was what I'd feared, but makes sense.
So what you're saying is... I'd need to have Over My Dead Bodies in play, do this during the combat step, and also have something like Leonin Shikari in play to equip Masterful Ninja again in response to my own Hot Tub ability. This all only being relevant only if Spy Kit changes the card's name in addition to the permanent's name in the first place. Got it.
Oh a more sane note, how does Kindle the Carnage work with Madness cards? Where does it get the information from?
Yesterday on Does Spy Kit change the …
2 years ago
In practicality this is a silver-bordered question, but MaRo hasn't answered yet. I'll hopefully get a response eventually, but in the meantime I'm hoping somebody knows of a specific niche black-bordered ruling that might not exist due to irrelevancy, and I wouldn't know how to find.
If I equip a Spy Kit to a creature, does that change the card's name as well as the name of the equipped creature's?
And/or: When you discard a card for the effect of an ability that references a quality of that card (like with Kindle the Carnage), does that ability refer to that card's quality in whatever zone it's now in if it can be found, or does it refer to the card's last known information? If the latter, from which zone actually is that last known information gathered?
What I want to do is reveal Masterful Ninja from my hand to have it in my hand and on the battlefield until end of turn, equip the Masterful Ninja with Spy Kit, and then discard Masterful Ninja to Urza's Hot Tub to be able to tutor for (nearly) any creature. I'm trying to figure out if this would work.
Brickhouse on
TRON Lightning Rod
2 years ago
Nice budget suggestion! Solid maybe card. I think Kindle the Carnage may have some problems though. I would have to see how it works with the stack because I think it would kill my creatures before they could sling the full 20 damage to the player. It would definitely work with Brash Taunter or something like Stuffy Doll . I'd have to ask a judge how this situation will play out. Would Kindle the Carnage resolve all the instances of repeating it's self at the same time or would it resolve one at a time and kill the creature? Reading the question I would say it resolves all at once. However I don't have judge status.
Depending on that, that's a solid suggestion! Red heavy. It could work well for a turn 3 win. (with a Mogg Maniac turn 2). I'll have to see if there is room in the deck for Kindle the Carnage !!