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Idol of Endurance
When Idol of Endurance enters the battlefield, exile all creature cards with converted mana cost 3 or less form your graveyard until Idol of Endurance leaves the battlefield.
, : Until end of turn, you may cast a creature spell from among the cards exiled with Idol of Endurance without paying its mana cost.
3 months ago
wallisface First of all txs for taking your time to look at all of them. 2nd I'm not missing Grixis so much as I skipped it since grixis has Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver and Nicol Bolas, the Arisen Flip as solid generic grixis planeswalkers so I didn't feel the need to make another one
As for you other comments lets take one step at a time First Ceara how is not doing temur things?
I disagree with on her first ability it fine there are plenty of walkers who's + ability makes tokens so there should be no problem there as it helps protect her and give a body. As for her second I have to agree that it should be reworked. And I'll fix her last abilities wording problem
On to Chichan I may cut it down to Scry 3 but so what if it's not very red he has two other colors in his identity and every ability needs to mach each color look at Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver first ability it doesn't match blue, or look at Angrath, the Flame-Chained's last ability it fully a black ability or Dakkon, Shadow Slayer's full kit his +1 isn't white, his second ability isn't either blue nor black and his last ability is almost entirely blue. Long story short not every ability need to match every color of the walkers colors. So other than being too much it fine
As for Chichan's second ability how is it unnecessarily wordy? I tells you cast spells for free by discarding three card from your hand (maybe will cut that to two)and to make more balanced you can play two more spells the turn you use this effect so it doesn't turn into a more clunky Omniscience. The same as the argument before even if it anti white so what? And this effect isn't as anti-white as you think, while not common there are cards like Idol of Endurance,Patrician's Scorn, Flawless Maneuver, Sivvi's Ruse, Sram's Expertise and to a lesser extent Sunforger and each has a different way to make spells free, add red and blue that do have discard for effect an its fine the only reason i see no black to this effect (though all colors have some free spells)so again it fine may reword it a bit but I don't think I need to change the effect
For his third effect I agree it's underwhelming/powered and will give it a buff
For Gwisin Noh- I admit I'm not overly to happy with her but abzan has so many options it was one of the hardest things for me to make generic any ideas for new kit is welcome for now I take you ideas and rework them but don't expect to much form this one
Next is Kuva- since it fine not much to say I don't get the read from a precon deck I fail to see if that a bad thing or not?
Nimthall time ok so he may be a little overpriced i was worried that his abilities were too powerful as a kit so made him cost more to balance him out
i feel his 1st is fine i mean there are zombie token out there other than just vanilla 2/2 again not common (and not counting embalm or eternalize or decayed) but there are a few like Corpse Cobble, Soul Separator or hun that it just those two that make unqie zombie tokens really? well hun i guess I'll just make them 2/2s but feel like 1 token is an under powered effect
i saw you had no problem with his second ability so I'll just move on to the third
His third ability yeah let just is rough and need rewording now that im reading also, as for the enchantment grabbing thing it was to help justify the mana cost
Shataj Sar Spotlight time
I think your right on making only one token here and taking out horsemenship and adding vigliance or maybe first stike instead will keep the haste.
as for her last ability i like the exile part but the life gain can go
For Sibrel- Other than the either you don't seem to mind the kit overall and i don't know why the "either" is that TBH will take that out
For Vull- What are your Jund motifs i wonder
Anyway will reword his first ability but he's a battle hungry blood thirsty barbarian do you really think he not going to attack? I'll be keep his effect the same
For his second effect to tell you the truth I couldn't decide which one to choose so did both still can't decide which one would fit better since they're both jund abilities
I see you no problems with his last effect
Finally Zendik's time to shine
I don't what to say really he's not favorite thats for sure
His first ability is heavily based off Soulfire Grand Master ability only for artifacts hell was think of making this an enchantment like effect like the WoS walkers had but it also work well his second and third abilities as a whole
his second is maybe too powerful will rework it
His third ability is worded poorly but I truly don't know how to this one, and for control decks this would be a great win con to flood your opponents after you gather enough artifacts (maybe I should add enchants on to this effect as well)
Also remember to look at the kit as whole and just individual abilities, since an ability may look weak by itself but it may work very well with the other abilities together Zendik is great example of this
8 months ago
Sevinne's Reclamation since you're working with small targets Idol of Endurance really good later game draw that mostly functions parallel to Alesha to help you grind out the game and refil Agadeem's Awakening Flip is super good for multi target reanimation Lurrus of the Dream-Den seems like a great creature Dark Tutelage seems like a really good source of card draw when churning through low mana dudes Bishop of Rebirth is mostly a baby Sun Titan I Love Trove Warden for all the previous reasons
Really cool deck. Love Mardu and hatebear stax type stuff. I personally would drop the equipment and play more swarm finishers like Akroma's Will Cathars' Crusade or something similar you enjoy playing. I just feel like those are great finishers for stax type decks built around so many creatures.
11 months ago
Just as with some of white's recent recursion tools, this has the issue where you lock yourself out of your resources if people tamper with your recursion tools or the tool itself locks them away while in "use" - as is the case of Idol of Endurance.
I would really like this card better if the exiling was a may. I would like it even more if it was only exiled while "in use" by the bat token, but that's probably going to be too much ability text to put onto a token.
However if someone kills the bat, your vampire is stuck in exile. Thematically, that's an oof.
As for the creature itself, it seems fine. It's on curve stats - 4/4 for 4 and no keyword abilities. It's rather plain and your interest is mostly the recursion, which makes it less appealing to be proactive about playing. It's a safety measure rather than an acceleration of your win condition. It does work on itself though (although risky due to aforementioned lock-out threat) so you can keep bringing it back for 4 mana, given the bat token doesn't die.
The concept is thematic and potentially powerful. Although I don't find it that exciting, but then again it's likely going in the 99 of an Edgar Markov deck. I doubt it's worthwhile to replace Edgar with Xylia and if that was the intention here, I'm not sure it is possible without making Xylia closer to broken than Edgar already is.
1 year ago
legendofa I would love that! White is certainly leaning into recursion with cards such as Trove Warden , Promise of Tomorrow , and Idol of Endurance , so they could feasibly work that into the flavor of sacrificing--by returning as an Angel, or some such something.
I feel like WotC are pushing Red more into the Damage! Damage! Impulsive Draw! Damage! category, but they can surely retain some of those aspects and add in this new aspect.
Overall: I say let's do it. An insurrection upon Wizards' HQ on Tuesday, anyone?
1 year ago
Anyway, wrapping things up with the Commander Decklist:
Pact of the Serpent: Cheaper Distant Melody, can also occasionally be used to kill/deck someone; passing the turn with infinitive* tokens can be dangerous.
Serpet's Soul-Jar: Kinda wished they let have this design space for itself trough Idol of Endurance but w/e. Also, would letting you choose the creature type on ETB have been too much?
Ethereal Valkyrie: Would have been kinda nice if this was mono- & CMC 4 or 5 with the draw part skipped
Spectral Deluge: Scourge of Fleets with the fins chopped off. Hard casting this feels a bit much, but the foretell cost makes this a fine wipe in mono- decks
Hero of Bretgard: I just wanted to express my happiness over "one or more" templating being followed by "that many"
PS. I'm kinda surprised Koma's Coil ended up being depicted as an actual separate creature; I figured it would be an image of the rest of Koma, Cosmos Serpent body which you could visually connect with it and each other recursively, S.N.O.T.-style, if you get what I mean
2 years ago
I have thought about Idol of Endurance for some recursion but that's all I have thought of to be efficient.
2 years ago
Why is it that Terror of the Peaks's ability does not trigger from itself entering the battlefield? Would that have made it too powerful?
2 years ago
I like that keyword tribal is continuing to be a thing, but I kinda think it would have been more elegant if Hooded Blightfang frenzy to deathtouchers or something so that people are actually incentivized to block your attackers in the short-term
I'm not sure who asked for a card with Niambi, Esteemed Speaker's rule text but sure, whatever.
Kaervek, the Spiteful is kinda boring from an EDH perspective
Idol of Endurance is a cool way of giving white some steady card advantage later on, doesn't risk permanently exiling the creatures either