Creature — Elf Warrior
, Sacrifice a creature: Destroy target creature with flying.
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|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Common|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Common|
|Ravnica: City of Guilds (RAV)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Elvish Skysweeper Discussion
2 months ago
3 months ago
I highly reccomend avoiding expensive cards for first decks- if you are going to spend >$5 on a card, you want to be picking up a card that fits into lots of decks as a format staple (for green, stuff like Birds of Paradise). A lot of cards are expensive because there isn't enough supply for a format (in whiptongue's case, commander), rather than them being the best options. There are diminishing returns on copies of legendary creatures too, and no shortage of inexpensive cards that never quite made the cut into modern that are super fun. Old standard staples are frequently <$0.30
If there are hydras you want to spend money one anyway, pick up one and run tutors like Uncage the Menagerie.
If you get bored, start messing around with synergies; a lot of 5/6/7 drops are playable in a green ramp shell like this- some will perform outstandingly, and others can sit it out with minor cost.
In terms of fighting fliers, Grappling Sundew, Wall of Tanglecord or Traproot Kami offer a delay, there is a lot of cheap spot removal like Aerial Volley, multiplayer options like Clip Wings, sweepers like Corrosive Gale/Hurricane/Skyreaping, options to turn flying into a downside like Bower Passage/Dense Canopy, utility answers like Crushing Canopy and Crushing Vines, 'total shutdown' effects like Elvish Skysweeper, Scattershot Archer or Gravity Well.
Then there are options like a 'fight' subtheme using your own fliers- allowing for answers to more than just flying Foe-Razer Regent is a lot of fun, Frontier Siege is cute, Kraul Harpooner has seen competitive modern play in sideboards.
I really reccomend packing in one answer and a couple of planned search effects- knowing that Uncage the Menagerie can get you a Vastwood Hydra/Overgrown Battlement/Kraul Harpooner makes it decent when you only have a few options, while it encourages a relaxed and varied decklist.
Feed the clan sees great sideboard play for a reason- its a good card when facing lightning bolt effects, but if they have repeatable damage it starts looking lackluster. I'd look at creatures with lifegain stapled on- Gilded Goose will be rotating soon, and so should get cheap and remain somewhat relevant in that neiche, while cards like Healer of the Glade, Pelakka Wurm or Oracle of Nectars do the thing in the meantime.
Finally, the 'I'm optimising a deck' thing- with 24 basic lands you can swap for 2-3 utility lands. There are budget cards that fix major problems without competing for slots; Emergence Zone against counterspells, Labyrinth of Skophos/Mystifying Maze to Fog attackers, small-scale lifegain like Sapseep Forest/Glimmerpost/Radiant Fountain, card advantage like Memorial to Unity, manlands like Treetop Village or threats like Rogue's Passage.
The reason deckbuilding in casual magic is so fun is that there is rarely a 'right' answer- there are about twenty ways to solve any problem, and its more about which one you enjoy more than what exactly you pick. I had a deck which aimed to use Gutter Grime with Brindle Boar and Gristleback for a while and it did great. Look around, don't worry too much about optimising and have fun.
5 months ago
Hi! Got to this deck through the Compendium. I was attracted by your promise of a competitive list.
VE seems like a very risky creature to have as your commander. It seems very dangerous, especially in a multiplayer game, to ramp the whole table at the same time. This is especially true if the opponent can kill him on their own turn and get the benefit of the ramp before you do. How has your experience been with this?
That aside, I do have a few suggestions for you.
Ulamog's Crusher is not in your list. Is he house-banned in your group? If not, he should really be in here.
Fierce Empath is whatever fatty you want him to be. Extra good with ways to bounce him or return him to your hand.
Revive and Wildwood Rebirth seem pretty free to have in your deck. Elven Cache is great too. 4 mana is not too much to pay conisdering how you ramp and how important VE is to your strategy. Recasting him for 5 mana seems worth it.
You're missing the classic Green Finisher of PDH: Sprout Swarm. With lots of mana and little creatures, this quickly gets out of hand and wins you the game. I can't recommend it enough.
Knight of the Stampede should really be Krosan Drover. The only synergy you lose out on is with Overgrown Armasaur, but otherwise it does the same thing, but better.
Yavimaya Elder is another classic way to get card advantage in Mono-Green.
Ashnod's Altar is a free sac outlet for your commander that will ramp you +4 on that turn at least. It also gives you something to do with little dorks that are hanging around the battlefield not doing much. Bonus points for the combo with Sprout Swarm.
Primal Growth is another great ramp card for you. It doesn't require the sacrifice if you don't want it, the lands come into play untapped, and it's still very explosive with VE. I think you could play this over Map the Wastes.
I slept for a long time on Elvish Skysweeper, but the card is actually amazing. Works well with your Commander, too. I would definitely play it over some of your other Flying hate.
In terms of cuts, You can definitely trim on the worse fatties, like Tyrranax, Cowl Prowler and Overgrown Armasaur, some of your middling ramp cards like Eyeless Watcher and Scion Summoner, and random cards like Snapping Gnarlid and Copperhorn Scout that only provide situational benefits.
Let me know if you need help finding more cards to cut. I think it's a good start and should make for a fast, explosive deck provided you don't get out-valued by decks that can take advantage of the free ramp.
11 months ago
I've found the best way to protect against a board wipe in my Marwyn build is to always have a bunch of cards in hand. Card draw on ETB or cast triggers like Vanquisher's Banner or Soul of the Harvest are great to load up on since you don't have to choose between building a board state and drawing cards the way Rishkar's Expertise / Collective Unconscious do. Also with the stupid amount of Mana you'll be generating with your general, you'll need to pack a ton of draw in your deck to not run out of gas.
I'd also swap out any non-elf creature you can for an elf if one exists with a similar effect since you essentially ramp every time you play an elf. So swapping out Silklash Spider for either Elvish Skysweeper or Jagged-Scar Archers might be worth considering. Also, I think swapping out some of the more situational cards like Seasons Past or Quest for Renewal in the deck for more cheap elves will give you more explosive turns and consistency.
1 year ago
I love this deck. PDH games go long and your deck help stall out the board and wins through those stalls using your commander. It's a solid strategy.
You want to maximize your creature count as much as possible to take advantage of your commander. There are a few effects in your instants, sorceries and enchantments that could be replaced with creatures.
Diligent Farmhand makes sense in this build, even as a worse Sakura Tribe Elder.
I'm a big fan of Elvish Skysweeper in slow decks like this. The effect is expensive, but it can lock a player out of the game.
Because most of your creatures have a lot of toughness, this makes damage-based sweepers very strong. I would play the full gambit of Crypt Rats , Pestilence , Evincar's Justice and Gangrenous Zombies . Two of them are creatures, so that's a nice bonus.
Heart Warden is ramp that also turns into card draw later, like a Mind Stone.
Slum Reaper is great removal and puts a creature in your graveyard.
Spore Frog is a good political tool that can encourage opponents to attack elsewhere. I could see it over Terrifying Presence, even if you lose on spider flavour.
Vulturous Aven is very similar to some of your card draw, but is has a body.
In terms of cuts, I don't understand Wildsize. You can also easily cut Spider Climb. Most of your creatures have reach already and +0/+3 is not great, even for 1 mana. Arachnus Web is also pretty weak removal. Rancor is a good card, but is it really useful for your game plan? How often will you win by attacking with your spiders? Naturalize feels a bit vanilla and could be replaced with another creature that gives you a similar effect. You also have quite a few cantripping creatures that I don't quite get the purpose of. Are they chump blockers? You have quite a bit of card advantage in black already. Wander in Death could be Death Denied or Reaping the Graves instead.
2 years ago
You definitely need more card draw Elemental Bond, Mouth / Feed, Skullclamp, Deathreap Ritual and Culling Dais would be my card engines of choice. With eight of them in the deck you should be able to have one most of the time.
2 years ago
Good cuts include Elvish Skysweeper, unless you have plenty of fliers in your meta. Disowned Ancestor: fine early game, and it would be hella good if outlast wasn't a sorcery, but alas. Graveblade Marauder is okay but it's generally lackluster (relies on your dudes dying). Herald of Dromoka and Dragonscale General cancel each other out. Petrified Wood-Kin is risky and Matsu-Tribe Sniper is just sorta lame. Spirit Loop really doesn't fit the theme of the deck.
Sorry I have to be salty here, just wanted to suggest some cuts. Also maybe drop the banners for signets (eg Boros Signet).
2 years ago
Looks pretty good! A few recommendations: First off, Elvish Skysweeper seems a bit too expensive for what it does, I'd recommend replacing it with a card like Lignify or Epic Confrontation. Also, I'd take out 2-3 of your forests and put in a few more non creature spells, probably some more single target removal like Naturalize, Unravel the Aether, or other cards like it. Otherwise, great deck! Can't wait to play against it