Dual Shot deals 1 damage to each of up to two target creatures.
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Dual Shot Discussion
3 months ago
It's worth noting that when transitioning from standard to modern, a lot of cards that seem like powerful contributors to a tribe end up being worse than non-tribal counterparts. For instance, Thunderherd Migration is probably better than the standard alternative Beneath the Sands , but it's probably worse than Rampant Growth , Cultivate , or maybe Sylvan Scrying with the right nonbasic to fetch. Drover of the Mighty is another that seems strong as a 3/3, but if you're tapping it for mana most of the time anyway, something like Birds of Paradise , Arbor Elf , Joraga Treespeaker , Incubation Druid , Whisperer of the Wilds , or Ilysian Caryatid might be more efficient. The only other suggestion I have is to consider adding ways to recurrently trigger enrage. Forerunner of the Empire is a pretty common option, but I can also see Pyrohemia , Harbinger of the Hunt , Raging Regisaur , Spikeshot Elder , or Power of Fire being used with varying pros and cons. Some enrage lists I see also make use of damage trigger shenanigans on cards like Arcbond and Rite of Passage . A possible cut could be Shifting Ceratops since it's generally more of a sideboard card. Otherwise, I'd cut any enrage trigger that isn't either repeatable or very cheap. Reckless Rage is great, but Tilonalli's Crown could just as easily be Dual Shot or something to that effect. A final note I'd make is that you may be able to take advantage of some of the bigger enrage dinos like Snapping Sailback and Silverclad Ferocidons . I wouldn't normally recommend them, however, Etali and a lot of ramp go a long way toward making them viable.
1 year ago
So this came up just recently in another thread that I didn't want to derail. Dual Shot deals one instance of damage to either one creature or two different creatures. Fireball deals one instance of damage regardless of the number of targets. Cone of Flame deals three instances of damage to three different creatures, despite the fact that the text explaining the effects of the card aren't separated across different sentences or by the word 'then'.
I understand this, and when it came up it made logical sense to me, but I found that I couldn't explain it to my imaginary friend in actual words. Is there a specific ruling somebody could share with me that explains it? Is it just also the case that things happen in sequencial order when separated with commas?
2 years ago
Hey Is really Dual Shot that usefull? What are the best uses for it ?
2 years ago
ZendikariWol Hey thanks for all that! WOW, so to start off thanks for the spellcheck. I did that part in a rush and haven’t been able to put all my attention into setting this deck up here yet. They’re fixed now!
Now for the suggestions: I don’t see how Cathar's Companion is strictly worse than Seeker of the Way only because they’re doing different things off of casting the non-creature spell. With the companion I like the idea of making it indestructible to add extra protection against board wipes. Though I will agree to see that it isn’t very game-changing. It’s just a measly 3/1 for 3. I’m not stuck to keeping it, but maybe you can convince me to take it out! This deck is mostly jank anyway.
Flamewright and Assemble the Legion are in mainly to interact with the Path to Exile combo where I can target my own creatures while Feather is out and ramp every turn. Or use Swords to Plowshares to gain 1 life a turn lol. That one is a weak trade-off but Path is excellent, especially for ramp in Boros. If you have better synergistic ideas for me to utilize Path I’m all ears!
I will definitely be taking out Radiate for Zada, Hedron Grinder though. That is a fantastic point. As well as I expect to replace Dual Shot , Lithomancer's Focus , and Kindled Fury once I come across better cards. Same with Onward / Victory and Orim's Touch .
Oh and unless I’m reading it wrong Shower of Coals is 6 damage for 5, or with threshold, 12 damage for 5–which probably still isnt the best but I’ll see how it runs for a while.
I’m going to check out your deck now to see what I should be running in place of some of the weaker jank I’m playing. I’m always down to hear more suggestions if you have them!
2 years ago
You have a couple spelling errors in the description. Hate to be that guy, but I feel it's better you know, ya know?
"shuold" -paragraph 1, there's a properly-spelled "should" in there too, but trust me I'm not just playing gotcha!.
"not" -paragraph 7, I'm assuming you meant "now"?
Anyhow, down to the actual deck. You have a couple bulk cards I'm honestly a little perplexed by the inclusion of.
Flamewright , while a fun card, doesn't have any synergy with the deck.
Shower of Coals is just not a good card. 4 damage for 5 mana? I know it's repeatable but it's really not great. I have a pretty hefty removal package and Imma be linking my deck below, if you'd like to look.
Pump spells that probably have better alternatives include Astral Steel (unless you're planning to have 5+ mana up), Captain's Maneuver (though a ton of fun, how often do you actually cast it?), Dual Shot (very weak), Enrage (also overcosted- love the flavor text tho), Kindled Fury (not bad, but there are better out there that do the same thing), Lithomancer's Focus (usually just a worse Brute Force ), Onward / Victory (you can never cast the good half if Feather's out), Orim's Touch (there are just a lot of better protection spells), Radiate (worse version of Zada, Hedron Grinder or Mirrorwing Dragon ), Spark Jolt (scry 1 for 1 every turn is decent, but better alternatives, bla, bla, bla), Sure Strike (worse Invigorated Rampage ), Surge of Zeal (usually worse than Expedite , right?), Tandem Tactics (good, not great tho).
Sorry I kinda gave you a LOT of stuff. This is about what my Feather brew would be if I made it in real life. Fortunately I use tappedout to build my ideal deck and make sure I don't waste all my money on "ooh that's really good, I'll use it sometime" cards. Feel free to yoink some ideas from my brew!
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2 years ago
Act of Treason , Larger Than Life , Dual Shot , Moment's Peace , Kamahl's Druidic Vow , Giantbaiting are all cards i would remove, in favor of creatures.(see earlier comment), as well as Dragonlair Spider , Savage Ventmaw , Wolfbriar Elemental , and Tilonalli's Summoner
2 years ago
This is the current deck I'm running because I don't have all the cards that I want for this and i've gone 25/2/0 in MTG Arena so far - I'm thinking of switching this up to UBR but this idea can really just work for any colors you prefer, I just Like the combo with white because of return creatures I need and low cost damage spells for creature removal similar to red but triggers at different times.
It's been 5 years since I've last played and I'm really enjoying this block so far in standard - any help is much appreciated.
As of release for Ravnica Allegiance Day one this is what I currently have for it, I'm just so sick of everything being so creature aggro based I figured i'd put together something to mess with people's heads if they play that way.