Drowner of Hope
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Drowner of Hope

Creature — Eldrazi

Devoid (This card has no color.)

When Drowner of Hope enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature tokens onto the battlefield. They have "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool."

Sacrifice an Eldrazi Scion: Tap target creature.

keizerbuns on Eldrazi Pyre

2 years ago

Thanks for the comment, fatalzintomyum, I'm glad you like the deck! I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say I should just play 4 Matter Reshaper since I am already running a full set. If you mean I should be playing Matter Reshaper as my lowest CMC creature, I already tried that in my first version of this deck and the deck didn't really run very smoothly, it was a little too slow to get started.

That being said, maybe I don't have to start at 1 CMC and go up from there, maybe I could go with what I think you're suggesting and start with 2 drops instead. Both Nest Invader and Eldrazi Skyspawner both look like excellent suggestions for ramp, but I think I might need the card draw effect like what Salvage Drone had more than ramp so I can find my Pyre of Heroes more reliably. Do you have any suggestions for 2 or 3 drops that can help me draw?

I think Endbringer and Drowner of Hope are both great suggestions for my 6 drops, maybe I'll try that out and see how I like it. Currently I'm just using the 6 CMC creatures as a toolbox so I can grab which ever one I think best fits the current situation and those look like they have a lot of utility!

I did also think about adding Wretched Gryff but I decided not to add it just because I thought Bane of Bala Ged was my best strongest 7 drop and I added in the Dread Defiler to make use of the creatures I was sacrificing and putting in my graveyard. I actually don't want to pod into my Elder Deep-Fiend cause it's ability only triggers if you cast it, and podding it just puts it onto the battlefield from the library.

Thanks again for the suggestions! I'll try them out and see if I can't improve this deck further!

wallisface on Eldrazi X

2 years ago

I think your mana can support 1-2 copies of Drowner of Hope, which could prove to be a more reliable finisher than Endless One. If you’ve got the budget a playset of Eldrazi Temple would go a long way here

fatalzintomyum on Eldrazi Pyre

2 years ago

I have a couple suggestions. First of all, I think that you should probably just play 4 Matter Reshaper. It is probably just your best card to pod, also just a decent low curve threat. I do not know if budget considerations are a thing here, but I believe that you might have a couple too many 6 drops. I think maybe 1 copies of Endbringer and Drowner of Hope each might be the best options, but I am not sure. I like Elder Deep-Fiend just for having synergy with your other cards, but I think you just want 1 seven drop to pod into it, maybe a Wretched Gryff? As for the 2&3 drops, maybe Nest Invader and Eldrazi Skyspawner would be good options

griffstick on Top 10 colorless cards at …

3 years ago

Welcome back for another top ten at 6 cmc. Last time it was blue. This time its colorless. Only one more after this and that's gold.

Last time the users voted that the best blue card at 6 cmc is Deadeye Navigator . That list is here top 10 mono blue cards @ 6 cmc

Check out these other lists too

So the rules are to post a comment of a colorless card at 6 cmc and the people will upvote it. The cards with the most upvotes will get the # spot. I will update the top 10 list daily.

Your comment/comments should look something like this...

My favorite colorless card at 6 cmc is Brass Herald .

It shouldn't look like this.

My favorite card is this card and that card and also this card but I think this card is the best.

More rules.

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  • You may make comments on other suggested cards and you may talk about the top cards list. But keep your card suggestions separate.
  • X spells are excluded.
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  • Only colorless cards at 6 cmc will be considered for the top 10.
  • unless its the legendary cmdr of the colorless deck. Cards like Transguild Courier and Sphinx of the Guildpact are not aloud in a colorless edh deck, so these cards and cards like it will not be considered for the list.
  • Cards like Drowner of Hope will not be considered for the list.
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flytyer97 on Thassa BANT control

4 years ago

Thanks for the input psionictemplar! I am really liking the idea of replacing Prime Speaker Vannifar and Gargos, Vicious Watcher with better ETB value. I will definitely consider using Idyllic Tutor. Primeval Titan is always a solid option, and I like the flexibility of Drowner of Hope. Leaning towards fewer creatures and more control sounds like a solid plan also. I'll mess around with some options and see what I can do. Will look forward to more ideas later on. Thanks again!

psionictemplar on Thassa BANT control

4 years ago

Here's a tl:dr summary of what I started to post and didn't.

  1. You have multiple ways to get combo pieces out that don't have synergy with each other. e.g. Prime Speaker Vannifar and only 1 Gargos, Vicious Watcher to pull the Agent of Treachery with. The triggered ability on Gargos is really going to waste here. I know that's not it's intended purpose but you could find other 6 drops that give you etb value even if it's only 1 time. e.g. Primeval Titan or Drowner of Hope Why not try something like Weird Harvest or Idyllic Tutor to pull combo pieces.

  2. I think you could do well to cut a lot of the creatures out and run more control elements such as wrath effects and counterspells. It would be more consistent and only leave you more time to assemble your win. If you want to keep the creature plan then up the numbers on things that help you get to the late game more and cut some of the more niche things like Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Kruphix, God of Horizons. A couple more vannifar's might not be a bad idea if you are really set on the creature route.

3 Other cards to consider: Eldritch Evolution ...more to come later on.

CrimsonWings3689 on The Swarm

4 years ago

Recommendations at 112 cards in decklist:

Cards to remove:

Kodama's Reach - Cultivate is the cheaper of the 2 ($ wise) and the deck can likely only support one of the 2 with how few basics you're running.

Crucible of Worlds - unless you're playing in a land destruction heavy meta, you're only likely going to benefit with this versus mill or forced discard. You're not running fetchlands so it's utility is very limited.

Illusionist's Bracers - while you have more than a handful of creatures with abilities you could double up on, the equip cost plus those activations is somewhat prohibitive. If your commander was still Sliver Queen, it would make more sense. As is it seems like an overly complicated way to double up on your effects.

Questionable Inclusions:

Rings of Brighthearth - potentially works with Barrage Tyrant, Each activation of the tap ability Gruesome Slaughter grants your colorless creatures, Idol of Oblivion, Brood Butcher, Deepfathom Skulker, Drowner of Hope, Eldrazi Displacer, Essence Depleter, Sliver Queen, Spawnsire of Ulamog, Ugin, the Ineffable, and Golos, Tireless Pilgrim. ---- Doubling World Breaker's ability doesn't make sense. With each ability costing a minimum of 2 (minus Gruesome Slaughter's activations), and up to 7, that extra 2 is going to add up fast.

If it's worth it for you for the 11-12 cards that have the abilities, that's one thing. but I would keep it as a tentative for right now with needing to cut 12 cards from the total list (9 if you cut the 3 mentioned above)

Kazierts on Blind Eternities Summoning

4 years ago

Yeah... I know that feeling of selling cards I shouldn't have.

Since you are crazy enough to wanna hear my suggestions, then here I come. I have to say one thing before though. A sideboard is somewhere you can put cards to switch between matches to fix your deck's weak point. So, even if have one Garruk, absolutely mainboard him. That would make the deck more consistent. Having him in the sideboard doesn't help.

Mutiny is another card that just isn't good. It's too unreliable as it needs your opponent to have at the very least two creatures and one of them needs to be strong enough to kill the other, in which case you'll kill the weaker but will still need to deal with a strong creature. Kozilek's Return isn't budget friendly. However, it's a good boardwipe that doubles if you cast a big Eldrazi, clearing the way for an attack. If you strictly want a single target removal you could use Lightning Bolt , Wild Slash , Abrade or, if want to have as few colors as possible, Reality Shift .

Same goes for Spark Harvest . Too unreliabe and sacrificing the resources you'll need to accomplish your goal doesn't seem good. You can use Dismember instead as really few creatures can survive -5/-5 and you wouldn't need a black source anymore.

Mist Intruder is just generic, and ingest isn't a really good mechanic. Run Eldrazi Skyspawner instead. It's one mana more expensive but also ramps you for one mana.

Hamletback Goliath is cute altough being nothing else. It's not bad per say, but offers nothing more than just a big body. No protection, no evasion, not even trample. Even if it becomes a 40/40 it can be blocked by a 1/1. Just as a comparison, Hamletback Goliath can be destroyed, bounced or exiled, but Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger can't be destroyed and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn has protection from an absurd amount of things while simultaneously having evasion. You're investing a lot of mana in those Eldrazi and they "pay you back" by impacting the board as soon as they come in and are rather resilient. Rather than the Goliath, you could use Emrakul's Hatcher , Beanstalk Giant , Oblivion Sower or even Drowner of Hope . Here's a more organized way to explain:

  1. Emrakul's Hatcher - Not nearly as big and has no potential to grow, but helps you "ramp". Also is a red card, so makes you have to properly adjust your manabase accordingly.

  2. Beanstalk Giant - Not as big, but can grow really big if go all in the ramp plan as it also helps you ramp by being a ramp spell.

  3. Oblivion Sower - Can be searched with From Beyond and disrupts the opponent while also stealing their lands and ramping you.

  4. Drowner of Hope - Sort of a Control(?) option. It can sacrifice you scion tokens to tap your oppoent's most troublesome creature and it's also searchable by From Beyond .

I've been writing a lot. Feel free to agree or disagree with what I said. Just because I think something would be better it doesn't it will be better or that you should like it, after all, the deck is yours.

Also, if you could change the format to Casual it would help a lot. When writing these comment, TappedOut can directly show you cards I want to suggest. However, since the deck is labeled as Unknown format, anything I try to recommend ends up being recognized as illegal.

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