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Commander Greven il-Vec
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Human Warrior
Fear
When Commander Greven il-Vec enters the battlefield, sacrifice a creature.
estoner on I solved mana screw and …
2 years ago
I actually played Volrath the Fallen in EDH since the format was created (occasionally swapping to Commander Greven il-Vec), but I stopped playing seriously after Khans block, which I considered the last really good set. Eldraine and Kamigawa 2 were both well-designed, but the power levels were out-of-whack.
I just play a lot of Orzhov and Crusade being banned bummed me out. I'm not a Templar or something.
What I mean is that decks like Dredge and Oops! (and I'm not being judgmental, I love Dredge) were clearly not intended by the rules. In a tournament context, it makes sense that they would be either banned or severely restricted. I don't think they're overpowered, obviously, because they usually lose games two and three. But the actual card game Magic: the Gathering would probably be better if they didn't exist.
As for Storm, Mark Rosewater named the Storm Scale for a reason. Obviously it's fine in Cube and Pauper, but we probably don't want to live in a world where Storm is the best deck anyway.
My problem is that in game design, you want to limit RNG to one aspect. Look at wargames. For example, I enjoy Warhammer. Warhammer 40,000 is generally considered a bad game, justifiably so. But even 40k knows that you don't staple random effects to OTHER random effects.
That is what Magic's current mana system does. Not only can you get color screwed, you can get screwed off having any lands at all. The randomness escalates exponentially, with every missed land drop causing to stumble on mana further, creating a death spiral. First you miss a land drop, now you can't cast Cultivate, now you can't play your Titan, and pretty soon you lost the entire game. That's not fun, and it's barely a game.
In poker, you don't need the best hand to win. You can bluff. There is no comparable mechanic in MTG. I just think that the rules have some room for refinement. The actual design of 99% of Magic commons and uncommons is actually quite good. Design mistakes like Oko and Uro and Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer only come up in constructed formats, and usually just for brief periods of time.
The real problem is that focus shifted from limited and sealed to constructed, where poorly designed cards are allowed to pollute the environment for years until they're banned or eclipsed by even bigger mistakes.
Mortlocke on New hubs to be added
3 years ago
Hello legendofa,
I propose a new hub to be added: Phyrexian. During Modern Horizons 2, 225 creatures were retconned into having the Phyrexian creature subtype to join Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider . Additionally, there were a smattering of Enchantments, Artifacts and etc that ether have the Phyrexian subtype or create creature tokens that do. Thanks to this retcon I now have a deck that has a Phyrexian tribal theme. For your reference, below is a full list of spells that were affected by WotC's Phyrexian errata.
Source: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Phyrexian
- Ascendant Evincar
- Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
- Belbe, Corrupted Observer
- Blackcleave Goblin
- Blade Splicer
- Blight Mamba
- Blighted Agent
- Blightsteel Colossus
- Blightwidow
- Blind Zealot
- Blinding Souleater
- Blistergrub
- Body Snatcher
- Bone Shredder
- Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer
- Brutalizer Exarch
- Carnifex Demon
- Cathedral Membrane
- Caustic Hound
- Chained Throatseeker
- Chancellor of the Annex
- Chancellor of the Dross
- Chancellor of the Forge
- Chancellor of the Spires
- Chancellor of the Tangle
- Commander Greven il-Vec
- Contagious Nim
- Core Prowler
- Corpse Cur
- Corrupted Harvester
- Crazed Skirge
- Cystbearer
- Darkslick Drake
- Death-Hood Cobra
- Dementia Bat
- Devouring Strossus
- Dross Hopper
- Dross Ripper
- Eastern Paladin
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Entomber Exarch
- Ertai, the Corrupted
- Etched Monstrosity
- Eviscerator
- Ezuri, Claw of Progress
- Fallen Ferromancer
- First-Sphere Gargantua
- Flameborn Viron
- Flensermite
- Flesh Reaver
- Flesh-Eater Imp
- Fume Spitter
- Furnace Scamp
- Gallowbraid
- Geth, Lord of the Vault
- Glissa, the Traitor
- Glissa's Courier
- Glistener Elf
- Gore Vassal
- Greven, Predator Captain
- Hand of the Praetors
- Hex Parasite
- Hollow Dogs
- Ichor Rats
- Ichorclaw Myr
- Ich-Tekik, Salvage Splicer
- Immolating Souleater
- Impaler Shrike
- Inquisitor Exarch
- Insatiable Souleater
- Invader Parasite
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
- Keskit, the Flesh Sculptor
- Kiln Walker
- K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth
- Lost Leonin
- Loxodon Convert
- Marauding Knight
- Massacre Wurm
- Master Splicer
- Maul Splicer
- Moltensteel Dragon
- Morinfen
- Mortis Dogs
- Mycosynth Fiend
- Myr Sire
- Necrogen Scudder
- Necropede
- Nested Ghoul
- Oculus
- Ogre Menial
- Order of Yawgmoth
- Perilous Myr
- Pestilent Souleater
- Phyrexian Battleflies
- Phyrexian Bloodstock
- Phyrexian Broodlings
- Phyrexian Colossus
- Phyrexian Crusader
- Phyrexian Debaser
- Phyrexian Defiler
- Phyrexian Delver
- Phyrexian Denouncer
- Phyrexian Devourer
- Phyrexian Digester
- Phyrexian Dreadnought
- Phyrexian Driver
- Phyrexian Gargantua
- Phyrexian Ghoul
- Phyrexian Gremlins
- Phyrexian Hulk
- Phyrexian Hydra
- Phyrexian Infiltrator
- Phyrexian Ingester
- Phyrexian Ironfoot
- Phyrexian Juggernaut
- Phyrexian Marauder
- Phyrexian Metamorph
- Phyrexian Monitor
- Phyrexian Negator
- Phyrexian Obliterator
- Phyrexian Plaguelord
- Phyrexian Prowler
- Phyrexian Rager
- Phyrexian Reaper
- Phyrexian Revoker
- Phyrexian Scuta
- Phyrexian Slayer
- Phyrexian Snowcrusher
- Phyrexian Soulgorger
- Phyrexian Swarmlord
- Phyrexian Triniform
- Phyrexian Vatmother
- Phyrexian Walker
- Phyrexian War Beast
- Pierce Strider
- Pith Driller
- Plague Dogs
- Plague Engineer
- Plague Myr
- Plague Spitter
- Plague Stinger
- Plaguemaw Beast
- Porcelain Legionnaire
- Priest of Gix
- Priest of Urabrask
- Priest of Yawgmoth
- Priests of Norn
- Psychosis Crawler
- Putrefax
- Quilled Slagwurm
- Rackling
- Rathi Assassin
- Rathi Fiend
- Rathi Intimidator
- Ravenous Skirge
- Razor Swine
- Reaper of Sheoldred
- Rot Wolf
- Rotted Hystrix
- Rusted Slasher
- Sanguine Guard
- Sarcomite Myr
- Scourge Servant
- Selenia, Dark Angel
- Sensor Splicer
- Septic Rats
- Serum Raker
- Shattered Angel
- Sheoldred, Whispering One
- Shivan Zombie
- Shriek Raptor
- Skinrender
- Skirge Familiar
- Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
- Skittering Horror
- Skittering Skirge
- Slag Fiend
- Slash Panther
- Sleeper Agent
- Slinking Skirge
- Soul of New Phyrexia
- Spellskite
- Spinebiter
- Spined Thopter
- Spineless Thug
- Spire Monitor
- Spiteful Bully
- Stronghold Assassin
- Suture Priest
- Tangle Angler
- Tangle Hulk
- Tel-Jilad Fallen
- Tethered Skirge
- Thrummingbird
- Thundering Tanadon
- Tine Shrike
- Tormentor Exarch
- Toxic Nim
- Trespassing Souleater
- Tsabo Tavoc
- Tsabo's Assassin
- Unworthy Dead
- Urabrask the Hidden
- Vault Skirge
- Vebulid
- Vector Asp
- Vedalken Anatomist
- Viral Drake
- Viridian Betrayers
- Viridian Corrupter
- Viridian Emissary
- Viseling
- Vital Splicer
- Volrath the Fallen
- Volrath, the Shapestealer
- Volrath's Shapeshifter
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
- Western Paladin
- Whispering Specter
- Wing Splicer
- Wurmcoil Engine
- Xantcha, Sleeper Agent
- Yawgmoth Demon
- Blade Splicer
- Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer
- Chancellor of the Forge
- Ich-Tekik, Salvage Splicer
- Master Splicer
- Maul Splicer
- Myr Sire
- Nested Ghoul
- Phyrexian Swarmlord
- Phyrexian Triniform
- Sensor Splicer
- Vital Splicer
- Wing Splicer
- Wurmcoil Engine
- Batterbone
- Batterskull
- Bonehoard
- Conversion Chamber
- Flayer Husk
- Lashwrithe
- Mortarpod
- Necropouncer
- Nettlecyst
- Phyrexian Processor
- Phyrexian Totem
- Scytheclaw
- Shrine of Loyal Legions
- Sickleslicer
- Skinwing
- Strandwalker
- Trigon of Infestation
- Lurking Evil
- Lurking Skirge
- Parasitic Implant
- Carrion Call
- Grip of Phyresis
- Ezuri's Predation
- Phyrexian Rebirth
- Splicer's Skill
- Inkmoth Nexus
Ruffigan on Card creation challenge
5 years ago
Volrath's Legacy
Enchantment - Saga
: Gain control of target creature until end of turn. If you would lose control of it, sacrifice it instead.
: The next spell you cast this turn may be cast by discarding a card that shares a color with it instead of paying its mana cost.
: Return up to two target creature cards from a graveyard to the battlefield under your control.
I wanted to make this to really symbolize Volrath but I feel this still represents him well. The first ability deals with him manipulating people and caring little about their autonomy, like his subordinate Commander Greven il-Vec . The second is a reference to his room in the Stronghold, the Dream Halls , and also helps with the third ability, his being a necromancer.
Another in the cycle.
McToters on MBC - Hythonia's Monstrous Black Control
6 years ago
Nice! Well you know how good Grave Betrayal can be then!
I, like you, enjoy picking less popular commanders or in the very least picking unpopular themese to run with popular commanders. Finding new and different interactions are always the best! Commander Greven il-Vec is probably the most unpopular commder I've made. Def havent seen anyone else with it.
SynergyBuild on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]
6 years ago
Kiyomei, If you want decklists, below are WECIC (Why Every Commander is Competitive) lists:
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1 VIEW
My best Commander Greven il-Vec list:
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15 VIEWS
My best Shanna, Sisay's Legacy list:
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0 VIEWS
My best Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign list:
Mono-Blue Combo (WECIC)
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0 VIEWS
My best Tishana, Voice of Thunder list:
Simic Combo (WECIC)
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8 VIEWS
My best Sol'kanar the Swamp King list:
Grixis Combo (WECIC)
Commander / EDH
0 VIEWS
My best Ragnar list:
Bant Control (WECIC)
Commander / EDH*
3 VIEWS
My best Halfdane list:
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Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 1 | 11 VIEWS
My best Llawan, Cephalid Empress list:
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0 VIEWS
Pieguy396 on Cards not found: Greven Il …
6 years ago
Hey there! It appears that the name of the card in question is "Commander Greven il-Vec". Have you tried that?
bushido_man96 on Volrath Voltron Reanimator
7 years ago
Ok, I've made some changes with what I had on hand. Here's what I've done so far:
In: Charcoal Diamond, Dauthi Embrace, Sol Ring, Hell's Caretaker, Ascendant Evincar, Distended Mindbender, Abundant Maw, Artisan of Kozilek, and Thornbite Staff.
Out: Soratami Cloud Chariot, Western Paladin, Eastern Paladin, Distorting Lens, Delraich, Wall of Shadows, Infernal Spawn of Evil, Sorceress Queen, and Commander Greven il-Vec.
Now, as I acquire some of the other cards, I'll need to decide what stays and what goes. What should I switch out for Buried Alive at this point? I do have a Jet Medallion, but do I really need it? Hopefully I'll get some play testing done with it this weekend and see how it goes.
PhotogenicParasympathetic on Saskia Tribal EDH??
7 years ago
Accursed Witch
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and about a million more. Also I have no idea what you mean when you say Saskia's not the greatest commander. She's pretty freakin' terrifying.