Abzan Charm

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BiggRedd54 on Ramos Mutate

1 month ago

Greetings,

Your curve is too high. Cut down on some fours and add some twos and threes. Consider significant ramp improvement. Take out Crystals and use multi color ramp/card draw spells. Consider enchantments over artifacts except for a few. Growth Spiral , Urban Evolution , Journey to Eternity  ^Flip, and Manamorphose The mythos won’t play into your commander’s strategy.

Check out all the charms in magic history, most offer versatility on top of food for hungry Ramos. Boros Charm + Abzan Charm would be bangers here.

I like where you are going with this, but Ramos is a tank. Use it wisely.

Gidgetimer on Does anybody know when the …

1 month ago

The most recent change to ordering of mana costs was with Khans of Tarkir. After the initial growing pains of figuring out how they wanted to order the colors they settled on the shortest way around the color wheel. So Boros, Selesnya, Simic, Naya, Bant, and all wedges except one depending on era "wrap" around the WUBRG ordering so that as few colors are skipped as possible.

Wedges always have to skip at least one color, but have 2 different ways to do so. You can either start on the first color of the pair so that Abzan would be GWB or you can start on the shared enemy color so that Abzan would be BGW. They chose to do the second pre-Khans ( Ghave, Guru of Spores ).

When Khans came out they decided they wanted to make the Clans "major" in the second color of the pair and that they wanted that to be the first color in their listed cost. So wedges are now the only costs that have 2 color "skips" in their cost. Abzan is WBG ( Abzan Charm ). They later ( Ghave, Guru of Spores ), though not immediately ( Ghave, Guru of Spores ), changed other wedge cards to comply with the new ordering.

Optimator on Giant's Deck

5 months ago

The amount of utility cards that facilitates for a large-creature/stompy deck (like giant tribal) is completely unparalleled and unrivaled. There are things--both budget and expensive--like Garruk's Uprising, Soul's Majesty, Hunter's Insight, Snake Umbra, Triumph of Ferocity, Lead the Stampede, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Return of the Wildspeaker, Abundance, Rhythm of the Wild, Selvala's Stampede, Shamanic Revelation, Elemental Bond, Colossal Majesty, Guardian Project, Rancor, Primal Rage, Heroic Intervention, Wrap in Vigor, Golgari Charm, Lifecrafter's Bestiary, Canopy Cover, Aspect of Mongoose, Alpha Authority, Asceticism, Defense of the Heart, Lignify, Lurking Predators, Bow of Nylea, The Great Henge, Eerie Ultimatum, Reap, Creeping Renaissance, Seasons Past, Reap the Past, Genesis Ultimatum, Beastmaster Ascension, Overwhelming Stampede...

The list is huge, and it grows every year.

This is on top of the superior ramping ability of Green and it's above-average removal options. One big advantage of Green's land-based ramp is things like Planar Cleansing, Hour of Revelation, Play of the Game, Bane of Progress, Creeping Corrosion, and Merciless Eviction can't send you back to the stone age by destroying all your mana rocks.

Everything you will want to be doing with Giant Tribal, Green supports and supports well. I cannot stress this enough. Not to mention the good green giants that keep getting printed.

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Black doesn't provide too much in the way of utility specific to giant tribal or stompy decks other than recursion and good card draw like Greed, Phyrexian Arena, and Erebos, God of the Dead. Personally I like cards like Damnable Pact, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving and Ambition's Cost but if you're running Green and/or Blue you shouldn't need to lose life to draw cards. Painful Truths might still be useful due to it's great rate (three cards for three mana is good). Syphon Mind is a great rate and has the upside of making your opponents discard.

Obviously Black specializes in removal (but so does White!) so you could run things like Mortify, Despark, Utter End, Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Dreadbore, Terminate, Bedevil and Ruinous Ultimatum. In Garruk's Wake and Decree of Pain are probably good in your giant deck since you're ramping so hard. Since you're running White you shouldn't need Black's wraths, but those two stood out.

Things like Phyrexian Reclamation, Animate Dead, and Reanimate are great for creature decks. Palace Siege is all right on a budget. So is Twilight's Call. It's no Oversold Cemetery or Meren of Clan Nel Toth or Rise of the Dark Realms but those are pricey. Recovering from boardwipes will be important.

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Blue has some interesting removal options like Curse of the Swine, Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, and Reality Shift. You have some Cyclonic Rifts in your trade binder, right? That alone is a great reason to run Blue in your deck (it's literally one of the best cards in EDH straight-up). Do it!

Blue also has all the card-draw--from per-turn stuff like Kumena's Awakening and Mind Unbound; chunks of cards like Concentrate, Treasure Cruise, Fact or Fiction, Fathom Trawl, and Tidings; huge hand-refillers like Overflowing Insight, Mind Spring, Stroke of Genius, and Pull from Tomorrow; and some sneaky stuff like Windfall, Keep Watch, Drawn from Dreams, Verity Circle, and Insight. Green has some amazing card-draw already but it wouldn't be a terrible idea to supplement it with Blue cards. Rush of Knowledge would be REALLY good in a giant-tribal deck--especially with Morophon, the Boundless at the helm.

Counterspells are very much not Giant/Stompy but I have a few aggro decks that run a silver-bullet copy of Negate or Swan Song just as anti-boardwipe tech. Not necessary though. Boros Charm, Golgari Charm, and Wrap in Vigor work well in that capacity. There are lots of 3-cmc options too but the mana difference between 2 and 3 is huge.

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You could even run some interesting charms like Abzan Charm or Esper Charm. There are some surprisingly potent options. Some are stinkers of course.

Temur Ascendancy would be reason alone to run five colors and be utterly fantastic in this deck.

Garruk's Uprising alone is reason to run at least Green.

Merciless Eviction is one of the best removal spells in the game. Four or five colors would allow you to run that.

Urban Evolution would be good in a big-mana deck like this. Inspired Ultimatum, while not amazing, is playable.

You get the idea.

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As you can see, there is a myriad of reasons to run more colors. Honestly, I really can't recommend it enough if true Giant-Tribal is the goal--whether Naya giants or five-color giants.

One extremely important thing for large-creature decks is to consider how you're going to recover from board wipes. Superior card-draw from Green, Black, and Blue cards will help immensely. Card advantage like Phyrexian Reclamation, Palace Siege, Seasons Past, All Suns' Dawn, Reap the Past, Reap, Creeping Renaissance, Eerie Ultimatum, and abilities like Mayael the Anima's, Golos, Tireless Pilgrim's, and Kenrith, the Returned King's reanimate ability will help you recover. These are things that Red and White simply can't do well. Sure there's Resurrection and Reya Dawnbringer, but they aren't great.

Brion Stoutarm is a legitimately good general--he really is!--but not for giant tribal. He brings nothing to the table for giant tribal other than being a decently-statted Giant himself and pigeonholes you into the worst color pair in EDH for essentially no benefit. As I mentioned, Iroas, God of Victory and, to a lesser extent, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas would make better commanders if you are dead-set on Boros colors (which I do not recommend if you want to play maximum giants). If you were building around Brion's ability and had some giants around as support that would be one thing, but it seems that's not the goal. As such, please consider switching commanders :) I think that if you want Brion Stoutarm as the commander, you should make a Brion deck.

I really do think you'll be happier in the long run with a different commander It doesn't have to be expensive. Most of what you would need I can trade to you, including Morophon, the Boundless, and most supplemental cards I don't have are in the 25-cent to $1 range (Realm-Cloaked Giant, Mayael the Anima, etc). I actually have a shitload of this utility stuff on-hand, and you have some great staples like Cyclonic Rift on-hand--and probably more! I want you to be satisfied with your deck! It doesn't have to be competitive to be fun, but it doesn't have to be expensive to work better and smoother and be more competitive.

Daveslab2022 on Geneva Format Cards List

7 months ago

4x Birds of Paradise 2x Noble Hierarch 4x Courser of Kruphix 2x Tireless Tracker 4x Siege Rhino 4x Abzan Charm 2x good 4 mana planeswalker (One of the Sorins or Vraska) 2x good 6 mana planeswalker (Elspeth it Liliana) 2x Murderous Rider

Something like that

GearsGames on Modern Abzan Delerium Midrange

8 months ago

I like what Abzan is capable over Jund this list seems to be pulling too much from Jund play style for me though. Have you considered using white or even some green to have more interaction? Cards like Abrupt Decay, Abzan Charm, Eldritch Evolution and Murderous Cut come to mind. Some good creatures you could play around with as well even if only as a Sideboard option for some match ups Cloudshift for protection/extra ETB's, Kitchen Finks, and Orzhov Pontiff.

Trader_Legion_Games on Kaiju Mutate

10 months ago

Cards I'd like to add:

• These put 5 counters on Ramos, Dragon Engine: Abzan Charm, Jund Charm
• Door to Nothingness because it's an alt win con.
• More playtesting is needed but Colossal Majesty provides on theme card draw.

Epicurus on Ramos Cascade Ramp

1 year ago

Rzepkanut Thanks for the suggestions! Wow, you're making it even more difficult for me, lol. Any thoughts on what to take out to fit them in? That's the biggest obstacle I have right now.

Jund Charm doesn't seem like it would improve this deck, but Abzan Charm does. And you're right, I don't have a lot of ways to protect Ramos. Right now, this deck is just building resources the first 2-3 turns, and then ramp, ramp, ramp, cast a billion spells. I think that when Ruinous Ultimatum is released, it will be complete. But I also wanted opinions on the storm spells in my maybe board, because I don't own any of them.

Happy gathering yourself!

Rzepkanut on Ramos Cascade Ramp

1 year ago

Both Abzan Charm & Jund Charm will each fully charge Ramos using only one card and 3 mana, plus they are potentially useful in other ways.

Padeem, Consul of Innovation is a great card to have in the deck too. Ramos is a popular target for removal, you gotta protect him constantly or he's toast. Plus it might draw you some cards.

My Ramos deck is extremely different from yours, but maybe it will inspire you.

Happy gathering :)

My deck:

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Ramos, Contraption Engine: Buff That Magic Dragon

Commander / EDH* Rzepkanut

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