Abandon Hope

Abandon Hope


As an additional cost to cast Abandon Hope, discard X cards.

Look at target opponent's hand and choose X cards from it. That player discards those cards.

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Abandon Hope Discussion

NTakamura on Cards like Abandon hope.

11 months ago

Are there more cards out there like Abandon Hope Something that still allows me to discard while making the opponents discard as well. I have magus of the wheel but something that does not do the entire hand just like one or two cards.

CardTyrant on I Bet You Can't Guess My Deck Theme!

1 year ago

This is not my guess, simply an observation to start conversation like I would if we were at a table playing commander (I like to think out loud).

It's mono-black with a very powerful commander in K'rrik. The possibilities could be endless. Now you did say this is a jank deck with a hidden theme. And for your "Turn One" you drop Abandon Hope without K'rrik on the field or any lands but didn't discard anything I'll let it go, so strange play (I joke since you didn't add any other cards).

So my first observation is it is either X spells but that would be too easy. However, lore wise, K'rrik had several clashes with the original "heroes" of Magic. I would like to see more before I make a hard guess, but I feel that the hidden theme could be lore related or even something as simple as X spells or discard. But where is the fun in that?

jpritcha on Blue/Black control

2 years ago

Here's some recommendations for cheap/casual reanimator from my experience building/playing these kinds of decks with friends:

  • More efficient reanimation mechanisms. Gravewaker has a really steep cost for what it does, I'd run 1 maximum. Cards like Apprentice Necromancer and/or Doomed Necromancer are cheap alternatives that let you reanimate much sooner.
  • Self mill and/or discard outlets. Need to get your fatties into the graveyard before you can reanimate them. Morgue Thrull and Necromancer's Assistant are good for self-mill and can block to buy time. Something like Abandon Hope might be fun for discard + disrupting their hand.
  • Look for "enters the battlefield" triggers on your reanimation targets. Dread Cacodemon doesn't make the best target since it only triggers when cast from hand. Something like Myr Battlesphere is a fun reanimation target with 'gains haste/sac at end of turn' type reanimation spells since it's 4 direct damage, swings for 8, and leaves behind behind 4 1/1s (also a great reason to play Dread Return , a super busted reanimation spell that is banned in modern and only costs a little over a dollar!). Or maybe Sundering Titan to kill a ton of lands. Both are also easy to cast late game being colorless.
  • Consider being more heavily black, and have more of a balance between counterspells and removal. If you are primarily concerned about creatures and are in black, removal is far more flexible than counter spells. There's tons of 2 mana black removal spells, many cost about a dollar for a playset of 4, ( Doom Blade , Ultimate Price , Walk the Plank , and Victim of Night all come to mind). I'd also advise against highly specific counters like Annul , as they have a good probability of being dead cards.

Caerwyn on The odds is the only …

3 years ago

Little note about -costed cards with Void Winnower's ability. -costed cards are one of two situations where a card's converted mana cost can change (the other being split cards). In most zones, does equal zero, as you've stated, but there is one exception. While on the stack, is equal to the amount of mana paid for the purpose of calculating converted mana cost.

So, if an opponent has a Void Winnower, you could cast Abandon Hope where X = 1, but not when = 2. Likewise, you could not cast Fireball when X = 1, but could if X = 2.

This issue is specifically addressed in Void Winnower's Gatherer rulings.

Here is a list of all odd-costed cards. With 9,178 odd-costed cards in the game, the list isn't going to be helpful. You should just run Gatherer searches as normal, then add "CMC of 1, OR 3, OR 5, . . . etc.".

piedudecubed on Minotaur Commander

3 years ago

Target Minotaur is banned
Borderland Minotaur
Marauding Boneslasher
Abandon Hope isn't that good - hurts you more than opponent
Bend or Break hurts you as well - sure you want to destroy your own lands?
Replace Hijack with Insurrection
Onyx Goblet isn't good enough (1 damage is lame)
Nice job with Whip of Erebos
Replace Accelerate with Fervor
Check out Akroma's Memorial
I like Dark Deal - also put in Reforge the Soul and Wheel of Fortune
Check out cards like Door of Destinies, Obelisk of Urd, Vanquisher's Banner, etc
Add Rogue's Passage
You're playing black, find some cards to bring back all cards from your graveyard (like Rise of the Dark Realms)
Add the disk, as well as some anti board wipe cards
You need some double strike and multiple combat phases! Blood Mist and Savage Beating are some examples, there are better ones out there though

Overall good job though, looking like a mean deck

MTGApprentice2016 on

4 years ago

How is the deck playing for you? Ive always found discard to be hard to build around in EDH unless you were making use of the wheels on the bus and Nekusar, the Mindrazer. Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Caress, Abandon Hope, Banshee of the Dread Choir, and Hymn to Tourach all seem like solid includes for your deck. There are many, upon many black cards with the discard theme, these are just the ones that stood out to me on a quick search.

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