Reveal the top five cards of your library. You may put a creature or land card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.
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Grisly Salvage Discussion
1 week ago
I like that about the deck but I think you may need some more self-mill cards. You have several cards that need cards in graveyards but don't seem to have many ways to put cards in graveyards. Maybe cards like Grisly Salvage or Glowspore Shaman would suit you well as you can get a land and cards in your graveyard. I was going to recommend Sakura-Tribe Elder but you already had it in your deck.
2 months ago
Hey, well done in progress on a low budget.
Some budget cards to consider adding:
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord : combos with Lord of Extinction for a budget win condition that has interaction with Meren.
- Elves of Deep Shadow
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Elvish Mystic
- Llanowar Elves
- Viscera Seer
- Burning-Rune Demon
- Satyr Wayfinder
- Grisly Salvage
- Village Rites
- Llanowar Wastes
- Tainted Wood
- High Market
- Jund Panorama
- Temple of Malady
- Woodland Chasm
Mana dorks are better than land ramp spells with Meren because they can be ramp first and then be fodder to give her experience. One drop mana dorks could also replace some lands. Viscera Seer is a nice sac outlet since it's a creature who can sac itself. Burning-Rune Demon is a new card from Kaldheim who can be a repeatable Final Parting with a 6/6 flying body.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- 8x Swamp
- 1x Forest
- Ambition's Cost
- Kodama's Reach
- Dimir House Guard
- Corpse Connoisseur
- Aphotic Wisps
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
Full disclosure: I'm a complete casual, but here are some ideas!
Entomb Animate Dead Exhume - maybe Faithless Looting Buried Alive And some doable, but less exciting ones: Cathartic Reunion Tormenting Voice Stinkweed Imp Golgari Thug Grisly Salvage Commune with the Gods - maybe Satyr Wayfinder
4 months ago
Nice to see a cat tribal Nethroi deck!
Arahbo, Roar of the World
a lot, a when Ikoria was released, I pondered to make an abzan cat tribal with Nethroi. But I ended building it normal graveyard synergy as I wantet to keep my classic Arahbo constructed.
Anyway, I know the flavor is that all your cats are legendary, an I love that, but I think if you want to play the deck more efficient without losing cat theme, you can do some changes:
Falthis, Shadowcat Familiar
in this particular deck is only a 2/2 vanilla, as your only commander Nethroi already has deathtouch. I love it, but in this particular case sadly doesn't do anything.
Cards you could add, knowing that aren't legendary, but they are cats that work very well with your deck:
Fleecemane Lion can became indestructible, and then you can mutate your commander on it, making a great indestructible menace and keeping that +1/+1 counter.
Fleetfoot Panther and Whitemane Lion can save one of your cats or can bounce your commander to keep doing his mutation and reanimating things. Bronzehide Lion also protects your creatures.
Qasali Pridemage you play it, control your opponent best artifacts or enchantments, dies and Nethroi will recover it later.
Necropanther to reanimate small cats or creatures, and can mutateo over your commander to repeat effects.
Feline Sovereign and Regal Caracal , if you go tribal, those are the best cats lords, in addition to Kaheera of course.
Rakshasa Debaser can be a wincon when you encore him.
Alms Collector for card draw and to control greedy card draws of enemies.
Phantom Nishoba and Phantom Tiger look scrapy, but they count 0 power when you reanimate them with Nethroi, and if you mutate Nethroi on them, you transform Nethroi into a crature that prevent all the damage that receibes, even if he loses all +1/+1 counters.
And playing something like Nethroi, believe me (I'm a Nethroi and a golgari player), you need graveyard synergy. If you don't, you'll find that you reached turn X, play Nethroi but you only can revive 1-2 sad creatures. You need to fill your graveyard before that.
Exmaples (of course there are much more):
Altar of Dementia
Life from the Loam
Eerie Ultimatum and Living Death you'll have much fun with those in this type of deck.
Hope that give you some ideas to improve the deck without changing its spirit.
5 months ago
I think you guys are right I cut all the wayfinders in favor of more wincons and a fourth Grisly Salvage.
6 months ago
It looks like your main goal is to stick a creature and then buff it as much as possible with +1/+1 counters. To improve the strength and consistency of the deck, I recommend cutting anything that isn't working towards that end (unless it's very efficient.) I'd identify those cards as Druid's Deliverance, Sundering Growth, Bountiful Harvest, Bump in the Night, Lair Delve, Blood Reckoning, Tablet of the Guilds, Primal Clay, Trestle Troll, and maybe Phylactery Lich (depending on how many artifacts you end up running in the end.) I'd also suggest swapping out Intimidation to stay modern legal, possibly with something like Bellowing Tanglewurm if you really really want the evasion. Your strongest cards that I'd want additional copies of are Abrupt Decay (budget permitting), Ring of Xathrid, Undying Evil, Slitherhead, and Death's Presence (assuming your meta is slow enough to run it.) It also looks like Tormented Soul is a critical piece that benefits the most from growing big, so having redundancy for it seems like a good idea. Changeling Outcast, Gingerbrute, and Silhana Ledgewalker could all be fine targets. For +1/+1 synergy, you have scavenge staples like Varolz, the Scar-Striped, Corpsejack Menace, and Lotleth Troll along with more general options like Polukranos, Unchained, Winding Constrictor, Hardened Scales, Hydra's Growth, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Scavenging Ooze (which is particularly good in a sideboard), Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Hunger of the Howlpack, Forced Adaptation, and Llanowar Reborn. Finally, some cards I've had success with in graveyard-focused decks include Tragic Slip, Satyr Wayfinder, Grisly Salvage, Splinterfright, and Fauna Shaman. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck with your build!
6 months ago
wow! thanks guys for all the suggestions! I have been so busy, and haven't update much of this deck since early this year.. I will update this deck this weekend, with all the good suggestions you have given..
@king-saproling - thanks for the suggestions! I will consider those..
@casual_competitive - I'm not much of a 2 card auto win combo kind of player, especially since i already have Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord + Phyrexian Devourer in the deck.. but thanks for the suggestion!
@backdoorbonus - that's a cool new card! affect other players too.. i might add that! thanks for the suggestion!
@cakes25 - it's an instant graveyard fill, but it might be too slow and too random of a card recursion.. but thanks!
@masayoshishido - Doomed Necromancer can be a cheap creature recursion, Keeper of the Dead will depend on the consistency of creatures on my graveyard, Gemrazer is good on certain situations bu can be vulnerable to single target removals that can kill gemrazer and the mutated creature, Altar of Dementia might be reconsidered.. thanks for all the suggestions!
@antlers12 - Gamekeeper might be a dud, since it needs to die then it needs to have enough noncreature cards to fill a bit of the graveyard and i don't have a lot of sac outlets.. also, creatures in the graveyard is needed for the gameplan of the deck, it might be counterintuitive to mill noncreature cards with Gamekeeper.. but Skull Prophet is a definite inclusion! thanks!
@sigiledwatch - ohh.. true, however putting things in my graveyard can be card draw in a way that's why i don't put a lot of card draws.. but i get what you mean, i might consider some of those cards.. thanks!
@mylene800 - i have considered Ghoultree before, though i'm not sure how it would be good.. i would playtest it again with the changes i would make, and check if it's worth as an inclusion.. however, Hydra Omnivore might be meh in the deck.. 6 mana, 8/8 creature that needs to connect for the best results might be hard in turns 4-6 earliest.. not having trample is not good.. but thanks for the suggestions!
@megantrongriffin13 - both Fiend Artisan and Necrotic Wound are great new changes in the deck! I'll check about Sheoldred, Whispering One.. It might not be a salty preator card, on my playgroup.. thanks!
@lola82600 - yeah! i was excited on adding some of those to my edh decks as well! I will definitely include Bala Ged Recovery Flip and Tangled Florahedron Flip! not sure about Agadeem's Awakening Flip, depends on playtesting if the price of the card versus being useful game ender or just a land most of the time.. I'll consider Nissa of Shadowed Boughs too! Thanks for the suggestions!