Card design challange (Red multicolor uncommon voting)
Community Set
squire1
27 April 2012
2270 views
27 April 2012
2270 views
Time and time again, we're always impressed with what our Tapped Out community has to offer! TNow, let's get some formalities out of the way before we get to the top card submissions.
Voting Rules
- Each player should vote for their favorite cards below. Vote for one red card, one red/black cards, and one white/black card. You may vote for cards by users or design team members.
- Each player should provide feedback on the cards for which they voted, such as possible changes.
- Each player may provide feedback on any of the other cards that are presented as well. Just be clear on what cards your are voting for and which ones you are simply commenting on.
- Design team members will not be voting, so if you do not like their designs and you all vote for something else, we will not win (which is fine).
To help with your decisions, this link will give you some background about Chavest:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-articles/2011/sep/5/community-set-chavest-summary/
Alright, here we go. Take a look at these card designs and vote for your favorites.
| Fault Lines by Yourman | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: The design team liked the overall idea of this card but were split over whether or not to make it a creature 50-50. |
| Volcanic Terrain by mistory | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: Unanimously, the design team saw this as overpowered in the current state. We all agree that even a 1-2 cmc increase could help that out. |
| Self Flagellation by dude1818 | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: This is an instant version of Wrack with Madness. It is a tiny bit harder to cast and is uncommon so maybe as is, but maybe an increase in cost is necessary. |
| Impassioned Ringleader by pyrefiend | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: We all agreed that this card is fine at a +1/+0 buff but not at +2/+0. |
| Balif of Varhas by Xander574 | |
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| Firespit Imp by squire1 | |
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| Last resort by $ªmHεiπ | |
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| Magma Mage by mistergreen527 | |
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| Fires of the Darkest Void by esterk | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: Some of the members of the design team indicated that the activation cost could be deacreased, others were fine with the card as is. |
| Blightburst by Jarrod_0067 | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: We liked this card as is. |
| Hateful Verdict by pyrefiend | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: One member of the team was concerned that the targeting stipulation felt a bit white. Other members suggested a CC of 2BR for balance. |
| Intolerant Conscript by Yourman | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: One member of the design team felt that this was or should be a mono-red card. |
| Mutual Sacrifice by Xander574 | |
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| Phoenix-Song Ritual by squire1 | |
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| Ritual Sacrifice by $ªmHεiπ | |
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| Chaven Decree by mistergreen527 | |
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| Twilight Angle by IronHead | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: One design team member commented, "Might be cool if the same player lost the life, kind of like the backwards Laquatus's Champion." other than that its groovy. |
| Chavest's Servant by feratu | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: We all liked the card and the flavor. We think that it would be best to give it flying due to creature type. And we all agreed that it must be a 4/2 not 5/3 |
| Enforcer of Laws by dude1818 | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: one member thought that maybe the ability should require tapping, but other than that good stuff. |
| Otherworldly Servant by Gopackgo7 | |
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Design Team comments and suggestions: no problems, one person was not crazy about this as a viashino. |
| Honest deciever by Xander574 | |
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| Blinding Void by squire1 | |
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| Dark Divine by $ªmHεiπ | |
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| Treacherous Beacon by mistergreen527 | |
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All votes must be submitted in the comments below by midnight EST on Tuesday, May 1st, 2012.
mossflower says... #2
I vote for Self Flagellation, as is.
I agree that Phoenix-song ritual seems pretty great, and I also wouldn't be opposed to reducing it's CMC by one.
Last vote is for Chavest's Servant with flying, as an angel-demon has to be flying. And reduce p/t to 4/2.
April 27, 2012 3:34 p.m.
Volcanic Terrain can make do just being changed to Sorcery speed.
Baliff of Varhas is worded oddly. Gains First Strike, doesn't wear off at end of turn? Seems a bit powerful.
My vote goes to Magma Mage, but drop him to 1R cost, I think. Grim Lavamancer does similar work, but is easier to use, cheaper, and also a rare. Prodigal Pyromancer is a 2R pinger for 1, adding costs to the ability for damage should also drop cost of the card.
Hateful Verdict and Intolerant Conscript are fine as written; They're a bit powerful for the CMC, but they're also multi-color, which is usually harder to accomplish than mono-colored counterparts.
My vote goes to Ritual Sacrifice.
So many good White/Black cards though. I'll go for Blinding Void, I guess. Change it so it says Another target tapped creature? 4-mana destroy a creature is in rare territory, I think. (Sever the Bloodline is Mythic.))
Btw, I assume you mean Treacherous Deacon, not Beacon. ;)
April 27, 2012 6:43 p.m.
Vote for fault lines, like it as is.
Vote for mutual sacrifice, as is.
Vote for treacherous beacon, maybe make it a 3/2 to make it a little more powerful while still making it easy to kill.
Also when creating volcanic terrain I looked at the difference between Raze and Stone Rain (raze costs 2 less but you have to sac a land). Volcanic terrain costs 2 less than Volcanic Fallout but you have to sac a land. Yes, you can play it earlier, but there wouldn't be much of a point as aggro decks wouldn't be able to amass a large enough army until turn 3 or 4 so that it would be worth it.
April 27, 2012 6:45 p.m.
I agree Volcanic Terrain is a cool card as is, if it get's worse I would never consider it.
April 27, 2012 9:40 p.m.
gamerboy6000 says... #6
R: Last Resort
B/R: Chaven Decree
B/W: Otherworldly Servant
April 28, 2012 10:33 a.m.
R: Volcanic Terrain as 1R
B/R: Blightburst
B/W: Otherworldly Servant, although original design credit should go to gamerboy6000
April 28, 2012 1:04 p.m.
slowtyper77 says... #8
Last Resort 5 mana for ten damage... Too powerful. I want to see it printed.
April 28, 2012 1:08 p.m.
R: Fault Lines, though I would like to see it as a creature instead - just feels more 'red' that way.
B/R: While I really love the idea of Phoenix-Song Ritual, it feels more like a rare than an uncommon. Therefore, I'll have to go with Blightburst. Seems like a really fun card, actually.
W/B: Twilight Angel, as is. Seems like a pretty cool card that is reasonably costed for an uncommon.
April 28, 2012 4:37 p.m.
R: Self Flagellation
B/R: Blightburst
W/B: Enforcer of Laws
April 30, 2012 3:15 p.m.
R- Fault Lines
B/R- Mutual Sacrifice
W/B- Otherworldly Servant. It would make more sense as a spirit though.
May 1, 2012 12:44 p.m.
R- Fault Lines
B/R- Mutual Sacrifice
W/B- Otherworldly Servant. It would make more sense as a spirit though.
May 1, 2012 12:44 p.m.
R: Volcanic Terrain, as is. Agree with others that the card would be unplayable at higher CMC, and don't think that it is particularly overpowered at current costing.
B/R: Phoenix-Song Ritual. could probably lower its cost to 2BR (esp since it works for both players), but it looks like a very fun card to play with in Limited.
W/B: Twilight Angel. It seems pretty great, but might be too good (6 point life swing + flying creature for 5 mana?). could be good as a 4/4 with same player gaining/losing life.
May 2, 2012 12:25 p.m.
R: Volcanic Terrain, and i also agree that raising the cmc would ruin the card, however perhaps requiring a mountain to be sacrificed instead of any land
B/R: Chaven Decree, like the card as is
B/W: Twilight Angel, possibly overpowered as is, would suggest losing flying and changing creature type due to lost flying
also a note on hateful verdict, would like it better as a 4 cmc no target restriction kill with the damage
May 2, 2012 7:41 p.m.
Winners are:
Blightburst
Volcanic Terrain
And a changed version of Twilight Angel
You can see them on the Chavest summary page.
Mpz5 says... #1
Volcanic Terrain seems very balanced to me as a land sac is usually crippling. I would be hesitant to play it at 1 cmc in most decks, wouldn't touch it if it cost 2 or more. Early game it will have decent impact but slow you way down and late game, chances are it would not be all that powerful but shouldn't hurt you much either. I vote it as long as it stays as is, if it get's worse, I wouldn't even look at it.
Phoenix-Song Ritual seems fun and fairly costed IMO. If anything reduce the mana cost by 1 since it's a mana and life sink which is usually somewhat undesirable. It get's my vote.
Enforcer of Laws seems solid to me. wouldn't run it if it had to tap though. I'd say keep it as it. It get's my vote.
April 27, 2012 10:54 a.m.