The Underworld Cookbook
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

The Underworld Cookbook

Artifact

, Discard a card: Create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")

, , Sacrifice this: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.

wallisface on Timely tokens

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

wallisface on Jund sacrifice

4 months ago

I think the big issue you’re going to run into is that the deck looks really slow - you currently have nothing to do on turn 1 which is going to put you a full turn behind your opponent (a really dangerous place to be). I’d be suggesting running at least 8-10 1-drops that are playable on turn 1. As you’re a sacrifice deck, cards like Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven, Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar, and The Underworld Cookbook can all be very strong here.

legendofa on UR Food

6 months ago

scotchtapedsleeves If I may make a guess on draftdump69's behalf, you don't. The Ovalchase Daredevils are supposed to be discard fodder for The Underworld Cookbook, helping reach delirium for Dragon's Rage Channeler and recurring with a stream of food tokens. If a 4/2 body is needed for some extra pressure, you can bring it out with Electrodominance or As Foretold.

thesilentpyro on Casual CoCo Food Aggro/Combo

8 months ago

Also don't need to swap both Trail of Crumbs and Dispute for CoCo. Even without adding more creatures, math says 26 gives an 83% chance of hitting two, which is pretty dang good. Dropping either reduces the number of possible things to do on T2 (if we don't T1 Goose, at least), but that's not a huge deal. Trail is nice to be able to get the non-creatures I like so I'd want to keep it around, but it's hard for me to cut Dispute either since the treasure would help cast Company (and it itself can draw into Company where Trail can't).

Probably drop the Witch's Ovens for a creature-based outlet. Seer is the best one, but I like Varolz, the Scar-Striped because I have nostalgia for it and it supports the aggro side-plan plus leans into the same self-mill support Sam wants, but the creatures in the deck are all small when they're not on the field so it's not going to get big payoffs and is mostly just a mana sink. Yahenni, Undying Partisan is another option along the same lines, doesn't feed aggro as well but has haste and indestructible is slightly better than regeneration, and is a little easier to cast. Both are mainly in consideration because being legendary means Sam can get them back from the grave. Woe Strider is also a consideration as it comes with a chump blocker that also triggers Pippin, Chatterfang, and Rosie, and can revive itself repeatedly if you're not having a great game and need help stemming the bleeding until you can rebound.

So if I want to do the CoCo route, drop the Trails and Witch's Ovens, add CoCo and a creature-based sac outlet, and find room for some number of Sarinth Steelseeker and another Grist? Could trim a copy of Altar and Deadly Dispute. Having Cat without Oven makes me sad, but Oven is pretty lackluster, it only really does things with Cat and since the deck has a better plan than durdling with Oven now it should probably go away altogether.

I do need to make sure to keep enough food-makers in the deck. Oven is a cheap food engine that had some synergy even if its over power is low, so dropping it (and the Trails to a lesser extent) reduces that consistency. OTOH, Company is pretty good at finding the better food-makers (namely Sam and Pippin) anyways. A single copy of each of Merry, Warden of Isengard and Pippin, Warden of Isengard would be fun and help a bit with that, plus they synergize with the other side-plans of the deck. Rapacious Guest is good for this too. Tough Cookie might be the one that gets the slot, though. It's starting to get potentially crowded on 3-drops, and you can do worse on turn two than make two food, one of which is also a bear.

I could play Urza's Saga, keep a single Oven in, add copies of the on-color artifact lands (maaaybe the ETB-tapped indestructible dual ones?), a Springleaf Drum (fetching artifact lands doesn't take an extra card slot, but drawing Drum helps accelerate if you're also already making land drops), maybe a Pithing Needle/Executioner's Capsule/Portable Hole, Nihil Spellbomb, or Skrelv, Defector Mite. Gingerbrute to stay on-theme, be able to get a food instantly if you're really hurting and Oven won't do, and as just a great Rosie target (and it also keeps your creature density for Company up). Blade of the Bloodchief is a cute win-more way to support the aggro plan that is funny with Viscera Seer or Yahenni as the sac outlet of choice. I told myself I wouldn't play stupidly broken things in my casual 60-card decks, so Skullclamp should probably stay out. Sam being able to get back Saga seems good, and the Karnstruct will be a scary size. Colorless mana hurts in a three-color deck that plays so many colored one-drops though, especially since I'd probably want three copies. Monetarily it's even more expensive than Invasion, which is worth considering too. It does play into a lot of things the deck wants to do between the construct, fetching silver bullets, and being re-usable with Sam if we somehow get into the long game. Maybe just whatever copies (if any) I have that aren't currently in commander decks.

There's also the The Underworld Cookbook + Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar build which I feel like I should mention even if nobody else ever reads this, but that's a different deck and getting too close to Modern territory (even if it's not a great deck there, it does exist). I like my hobbits better.

PhyrexianPraetor on 【Emotional】▷ RANT ◁ WOTC's GREED has RUINED MAGIC!

1 year ago

wallisface

Teferi, Time Raveler is not bannable? Despite your argument it is overpowered. They even had to alter it in online mtg by making it cost four and changed it’s ability from “your opponents can only cast spells at sorcery speed” to “your opponents can only cast spells on their turn”. They had to alter it’s ability so that counter magic could still be used against it’s controller. That is it’s main problem, once resolved it literally makes it so the opponent can’t respond to what you’re doing and makes the game very one sided.

Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer is a card that me and my hyper-competitive friend have talked about alongside the other cards on my list. He believes Ragavan might get banned at some point due to doing to much for 1 mana and actually forcing the opponent to have an answer for it. This was the same exact argument that WOTC used for banning Deathrite Shaman.

Wrenn and Six should never have costed 2 mana. If it costed more it would probably be fine, but it comes down too early and effectively warps the game. Having consistent land-drops was meant to be something you had to work at (like drawing tons of cards).

Expressive Iteration is the one card my friend actually mentioned to me. In the last year he has played at every local modern event and says it generally leads to whoever can cast it first ends up winning.

Ovalchase Daredevil fits into the same argument that Splinter Twin did. They thought about leaving twin in and banning the creature it was paired with, but they decided to ban twin not only due to overrepresentation (which cookbook isn’t overrepresented), but due to it being the engine for the combo. Daredevil effectively is an engine, without it The Underworld Cookbook would suddenly gain a downside and actually cost cards to use it. As is, it has no downside whatsoever. My friend has been showing me what decks it gets used in. One is a Grinding Station deck that uses the daredevil+cookbook combo and was the least offensive one he showed me and my other friend. The two that see the most play where I live are both archon decks that use the combo as part of a reanimator package and even with main-board graveyard hate, were ultimately very difficult to stop or next to impossible to stop. In all three cases, these decks wouldn’t have been able to go off turn three without the cookbook. Which again, WOTC has had a history of hating combos and strategies that go off before turn 4.

Believe it or not, Underworld Breach sees no play where I live. It has been considered unplayable by my local meta ever since Endurance started seeing more play. One guy tried it and ended up giving up on it after a few months.

All in all, the cards I listed all fit into reasons other cards got banned. Either due to being an engine for a combo, unfun to play against or do too much for next to no investment. I ain’t going to hate on you, cause everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But my statements still stand and are valid. Especially with WOTC’s history of reasons to ban cards seemingly being ignored now.

PhyrexianPraetor on 【Emotional】▷ RANT ◁ WOTC's GREED has RUINED MAGIC!

1 year ago

As someone who has played mtg since Lorwyn made it’s debut (2007), I have one thing to say. As a home-brewer I don’t mind new cards, I actually like newly printed cards and neat concepts. What I don’t like is when they print new cards that essentially amount to legalized cheating and cards that embody the very reasons why previous problem cards and strategies got banned in the first place.

With that being said, I have recently gotten back into mtg after almost a year of selling my collection due to War, MH1 and MH2 and only play modern with my friends. For quite a few years I was able to successfully bring BW Devotion to Modern FNM and come 1st, 2nd or 3rd quite consistently. All of the other players brought decks like Grixis Shadow, UW Control, Grishoal Brand/Reanimator, Tron, Affinity, Death & Taxes, Naya Zoo, Burn, Mill, Storm, Ad Nauseam, Dredge, Humans, Merfolk, Spirits, Vampires, Zombies, BR Demons, Infect, UR Thing in the Ice, Izzet Drakes and various other decks. There was a high degree of variation among modern players in my area and you were able to perform in a decent manner with a home-brew.

With the introduction of War of the Spark, Modern Horizons and Modern Horizons 2 a lot of those players either quit, started playing edh only or started playing one of the four strategies that were the best in my area (UW Control due to Teferi, Time Raveler, Jund due to Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer, Archon Reanimator Decks and four/five colour Omnath Decks). With three sets and many standard cards that were ridiculous, WOTC had caused modern to become a format of four separate strategies (after some bannings of course), effectively making it a rotating format and accomplished in contradicting their previous reasons for banning cards in the past by doing so.

For years, cards would get banned due to over-representation of certain decks (Splinter Twin as an example) or how certain strategies got too strong (Infect as another example). Now WOTC prints cards that are way too pushed and are nearly impossible to stop and don’t do anything about them.

If a ban were to happen I would like to see one or two of the below cards banned.

1) Teferi, Time Raveler is a card that literally turns a game of mtg into Hearthstone and prevents the opponent from interacting in any way, shape or form. By far this card embodies my concept of “legalized cheating” the most.

2) Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer isn’t bad when you can answer it. When you can’t, it effectively turns into a 1 mana card that is a combination of Sink hole and Shock. I have rarely seen a player use it’s ability to cast the cards it takes off the top of the deck and usually have seen it hit lands off the tops of said decks. It does too much for a 1 mana card, just like Deathrite Shaman.

3) Omnath, Locus of Creation or Wrenn and Six both generate way too much card advantage for so little investment. All you have to do is play fetch-lands and you will win the game in a matter of turns. One or both have to go. I put these two together due to seeing them both played along side each other more often than not.

4) Mishra's Bauble has always been a card that has attracted the attention of WOTC with possible bannings. Similarly as Ragavan, it does too much for little to no cost and it also contributes to certain strategies in a big way at literally no cost, not to mention that it replaces itself.

5) Expressive Iteration generates too much card advantage. In a way it kind of reminds me of Faithless Looting. Not in the way of abusing graveyard strategies, but drawing a lot for very little cost. EI effectively reads “scry 3 and draw 2”, last time a card did something similar to this, it got banned. The card I am referring to is Preordain. A card that generated way too much card advantage for 1 mana by setting up your next two draws, one of which was immediately drawn after scrying and was one of the cards that lead to Storm being way too consistent in the format.

6) Ovalchase Daredevil isn’t a particularly busted card, but it makes decks that use The Underworld Cookbook way to consistent. Discarding a card to activate an ability is supposed to COST YOU A CARD!!!, not generate card advantage for effectively nothing in exchange. Disagree with me? Storm had received the most bannings in modern’s history due to being “too consistent”, so why does another deck get to have the same level of consistency and not get a second look? Sure, it’s not the most dominant strategy, but neither was Storm and it still got banned into oblivion.

wallisface on Lanter Control

1 year ago

Some thoughts:

  • you really need the full playset of Ensnaring Bridge to be able to reliably survive against an opponents attacks.

  • both Ashiok, Dream Render and Karn, the Great Creator feel out of place here. Ashiok is maybe a decent sideboard option, but i think Karn is just going to slow you down.

  • imo you need some lifegain outlet to not have an absolutely terrible matchup versus burn. I’ve found a single copy of The Underworld Cookbook work wonders for this in that it’s Saga-fetchable, and it also helps Ensnaring Bridge get online faster.

wallisface on Cat Oven

1 year ago

Feels like you should be finding room for Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar and The Underworld Cookbook here… your mana curve feels kinda high so maybe lowering that for these cards could be worth it?

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