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Sign in Blood
Sorcery
Target player draws two cards and loses 2 life.
HeavenlyAxe on
1 month ago
Hey Indie,
First off I really like the lands you have assembled and the suggestions from SufferFromEDHD are all good.
You are definitely going to want an artifact ramp package.
Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone, Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo
Special Mention to Nyx Lotus, it could be good being in mono black. and Jeweled Lotus, pays for your commander for free on turn 1 even.
Sword of the Animist is not bad ramp at all and buffs yours rats
Commander's Plate might be cute.
Liliana of the Dark Realms, makes sure you always get a land drop and could make your swamps tap for four.
Chittering Witch if your playing with more opponents.
Crypt Ghast is sort of ramp, but doubles your swamps. Very good in mono black.
Dauthi Voidwalker is not on theme at all but is just sooo much value in a two cost card I have to recommend it.
God-Eternal Bontu is excellent draw power in the right situation.
Dont forget you can run any number of Relentless Rats
Gray Merchant of Asphodel will heal you up a lot and hurt your opponents
Krav, the Unredeemed is also great card draw.
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, has card draw, removal, and proliferate all on one card
Deadly Rollick, potentially free removal
Defile, cheap good removal
Thrilling Encore saves you from a board wipe or lets you bring everything back after sacrificing it all to like God-Eternal Bontu
Phyrexian Arena some ok card draw.
Bojuka Bog if you are worried about graveyards
Mutilate, a good board wipe in mono black
Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, are a great draw package for mono black
Toxic Deluge a great board wipe for when things need resetting, and you could follow with Thrilling Encore and get it all back
Syphon Mind is great draw if your playing with more players
Victimize - is really really strong, get rid of one weak thing for two of your best things
Yawgmoth's Will - lets you treat your graveyard like your hand for a turn
Lord Skitter, Sewer King makes rats
Marrow-Gnawer - lets you make lots of rats
Infectious Inquiry - good draw and gives poison
Ogre Slumlord - makes rats when your creatures or your opponents creatures die.
Tangled Colony - if your opponent has to block it or it dies to like Blasphemous Act will make you rats
Vraska's Fall removal and poison counter
Drown in Ichor removal and poison
Bontu's Monument all your creatures cost less
Rat Colony can have any number and they buff themselves, and cost less mana than Relentless Rats
Typhoid Rats deathtouch rat opponents wont want to block
Crypt Rats can board wipe but can also win the game if you give it infect, doesnt work with your commander because toxic specifies combat damage but does work if you give it infect and deal damage with it's ability.
Ratcatcher tutors rats, and gives you card advantage
Ashcoat of the Shadow Swarm - buffs your rats and lets you get rats back
Wave of Rats has blitz and reanimates itself
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni rat that steals opponents stuff
Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion rat that steals opponents stuff
Adaptive Automaton is a rat and buffs rats
Okiba-Gang Shinobi rat makes opponents discard and has ninjutsu
Filth gives all your rats swampwalk pairs well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Dark Ritual lets your get a head start or some extra mana a turn you need it
Tainted Strike instant speed infect, funny in multiplayer because you can use it on anyone's creatures.
Phyresis Outbreak gives poison and might kill opponents creatures
Feed the Swarm enchantment removal in black
Vat Emergence gets a creature back and proliferates
Spread the Sickness destroys a creatures and proliferates
Pact of the Serpent strong tribal card draw
Living Death swap graveyards with battlefields, great after sacrificing your whole board to draw cards
Skullclamp sack small rats for card draw
Thrumming Stone if you go the Relentless Rats or Rat Colony route
Coat of Arms your rats will be huge
Bolas's Citadel this card is dumb lol, lots of casting power and then you hit Gray Merchant of Asphodel and keep going lol
Icon of Ancestry kinda draw buffs rats...is ok
Contagion Engine proliferate twice each time you activate
Eldrazi Monument gives creatures flying indestructible and +1/+1
Grafted Exoskeleton gives a creature infect, great with Crypt Rats
Sword of Truth and Justice proliferate sword
Bad Moon buff all black creatures, opponents too
Phyresis gives infect again good with Crypt Rats
Greed card draw
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting proliferate planes walker
I know that's a lot but hopefully gave you some ideas to work with!
Profet93 on
EFF YOUR DUDES!
2 months ago
Deserted Temple - Untap coffers + politics
Thespian's Stage - Copy coffers, temple or another utility land
Imp's Mischief - Versatile utility. It can "counter" counterspells which is important depending on your meta as you sink all your mana into your commander (or one of your expensive wipes). It can also redirect targeted removal, draw and extra turns.
Oblivion Stone - Wipe that hits artifacts and enchantments
Erebos's Intervention > Battle of Bridge - You don't have enough artifacts to use effectively. Moreover, Erebos's is an instant and is flexible for grave hate.
Necropotence/Syphon Mind/Read the Bones/Night's Whisper/Sign in Blood - Draw
Maybe Strionic Resonator? - Double on all on your creature ETB's and most importantly your commander's ability
Maybe MImic Vat? - More ETBs and can use opposing creatures to deny GY synergies and abuse their ETBs as your own.
Profet93 on
This Deck Does Not Believe In Free Will
2 months ago
Infernal Darkness - Contaminations cousin that doesn't shut off coffers
Read the Bones/Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper/Syphon Mind - Draw. I understand your commander tutors but you won't always be ensured that she lives to see your next turn. Having some draw to help you dig is crucial.
Perhaps some flexible spot removal like Sheoldred's Edict?
More than anything, you have a lot of high cmc cards and long winded combos which are difficult to pull off, even with a tutor in the command zone. Some ramp can help you, Arcane Signet and Mind Stone come to mind. Lowering the avg cmc of this deck + adding more draw and ramp = more consistency in achieving your goal. Having a plan B (and C) is fine until it takes too much away from Plan A.
Profet93 on
Haunted Shadowheart
3 months ago
To deal with stalling out, more draw can't hurt. Syphon Mind, Phyrexian Arena, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper, Ambition's Cost and Ancient Craving are all decent ideas.
I would add some more interaction as a preventative measure for staying power such as Contamination and/or Infernal Darkness. How are they gonna wipe if they can't cast spells? Swapping out your 4cmc lili for Karn, the Great Creator could be worth considering as well. Having one of the above enchantments + karn = fun times.
I personally disagree with insidious dreams because 1) It's an additional cost to cast. Without any anti-blue measures in the deck, this would be strongly meta dependent IMO. 2) It doesn't bring the cards to hand. Even ignoring mill, you have to wait to draw them or cast an additional draw spell just to get them. Why not add a more expensive CMC card that can accomplish what you're looking for? Your avg cmc is low enough to support it. Something like Peer into the Abyss (synergy with Archfiend of Despair) or Diabolic Revelation might work for you. Never hurts to try insidious though.
While not necessary, have you considered an alternate wincon? Rings of Brighthearth + cabal coffers + Deserted Temple = . You have a lot of flexibility in your landbase, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth can reduce the amount of swamps you need. Temple can be used for politics and ramp with coffers on it's own. Rings synergizes with your commander, your shadowborn apostyles and several other cards. Adding in fetches could allow you to ramp. All depends on your goals + budget.
You have no instants. While I'm personally biased, Imp's Mischief can "counter" counterspells and redirect targeted removal, draw and extra turns! You definitely need an instant or two to bluff.
Profet93 on
Ob Nixilis, of the Combo
3 months ago
I haven't kept up with anything past March 2020.
Syphon Mind - Draw 3, opponents discard 1 each.
Read the Bones - Draw with scry
Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper/Ancient Craving - Simple draw
Necropotence - Super draw
Basalt Monolith - I am actually not a fan of this one, grim monolith is better because it can bring your commander down Turn 3. Basalt + Rings + 2 mana = Infinite colorless. Add a Sensei's Divining Top to draw your whole deck. Note; Adding top to the rings + deserted temple + coffers combo also allows you to draw (and then cast) your entire deck
Dark Ritual - Helpful in a pinch
Bubbling Muck - Super ramp. Be careful with urborg out though as it affects all players.
Jet Medallion - Cost reducer
Mind Stone - Ramp when you need it, draw when you don't
I don't recommend everything above, just wanted to give you options to consider based on budget, availability and preference. Let me know if you would like suggestions for cuts.
Sc000t on
Xiahou Doom
3 months ago
Thank you for your time looking at the list and input! This list has been experimental for a while but its finally getting to play in public and some of your suggestions are going to be added in! I understand the lack of spells for the scepter might make that card look like a dud, but thats why the list has tutors to grab the right spell depending on the situation. The list is convoluted with multiple different lines to take. It's designed like that so it wont play out the same way each game. Sometimes its a turn 3/4 win other times its a messy hour and a half long game. Yes, Head Games is nuts!!! Especially with recursion, everyone gets a meme hand!! Suggesting Opposition Agent will be useful and in some cases, SPICY! Since this list does not revolve around Shadowborn Apostles anymore, Infernal Darkness looks like the right replacement. (Although everyone at one card shop HATES that effect) Playing with more control might be the best route to take since this list gets a lot of threat. Adding Karn, the Great Creator 100% and with some cheaper kill spells that would slow the table down for enough time to assemble the right pieces to have more time to win.
1) Insidious Dreams is not usually cast unless you have citadel on the field. It's a spell that you wouldnt cast if you suspected someone would counter it.
2) Sacrifice works effectively when Razaketh, the Foulblooded or Rune-Scarred Demon are out for extra mana to cast the high cmc spells you tutored with them.
3) Warlock Class is used for it's loss of life effect to start the Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood combo for 1 mana. The second reason it's in the list is the level 3 effect that mimics wound reflection, and would kill any player that pays half their life to counter Temporal Extortion.
4) Darkness is useful against some friends' lists that dish out a lot of damage. The spell can be recurred with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed's ability but can also be put on the scepter.
From your suggestions: Karn, the Great Creator, Imp's Mischief, Syphon Mind, Opposition Agent, Mana Vault, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, Peer into the Abyss, and Dauthi Voidwalker all seem to be good cards to add. Might consider moving Sensei's Divining Top from another list into this one for better card draw and also Skullclamp might make a return.
Azoth2099 on
So basically dimir Talrand
3 months ago
Yeah, I suppose that was a rude way to say that, I apologize.
Once this deck is streamlined, you'll have more than enough token generation to slot Diabolic Intent, especially considering that one of your main combos is Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter. Sacrificing a token so that you can make infinite tokens is worth it.
Also, the utility offered by Black Market Connections here is insane. If you don't want to throw a bunch of life into it once it's served it's purpose you can just pay 1 for a treasure, which is fantastic. The tokens it generates are Changelings as well, which matters a lot if we're talking about quickly getting to the 9. Never be afraid to use your life as a resource, especially in color combos including . You're kicking yourself by doing so! The more powerful and dialed in your decklist is, the more powerful your life will be as a resource, I cannot overstate this.
If you don't want to police the table for fun's sake...that's awesome lol, you're probably super fun to play with! In that case, I'd add more cantrip effects for yourself like Ponder, Brainstorm, Serum Visions, Opt...There's a ton. Windfall, Tolarian Winds, Sign in Blood & Night's Whisper would do great in this new hypothetical card draw pack, too.
As far as what I'd cut to make room for more core strength, here it goes:
Teferi's Veil, Levitation, Cover of Darkness, Glamdring, Maskwood Nexus, Uncovered Clues, Pieces of the Puzzle, Worn Powerstone, Metallurgic Summonings, Quantum Misalignment, Decoy Gambit & Soul Shatter.
None of these are bad cards per se, I definitely understand why you slotted most of them, but if you replace them with some of the cards I mentioned your deck engine will run a lot smoother a lot more often.
Profet93 on
Xiahou Doom
4 months ago
Sc000t +1
Interesting deck, nice low avg cmc. A couple comments, questions and suggestions....
- Insidious Dreams - Seems like it's prime for a counterspell. I don't see a single way to deal with blue. Moreover, you barely have any draw to even draw into your top cards. I know you have bolas citadel and necro but its not enough. You definitely should consider adding more draw. I know you want to assemble your combo with tutors but more draw definitely can't hurt
- Sacrifice - How has this been playing for you? I assume you use it in response to an opponent targeting your big demons?
- Warlock Class - I'm missing something, how is this helpful for your build?
- Darkness - Does your meta include a lot of creatures/combat? How has it been playing for you, would you consider swapping it out for more draw perhaps?
Suggestions....
- Imp's Mischief - It can redirect targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells. Moreover, it's another useful card to imprint onto Isochron Scepter.
- Cabal Coffers - Ramp
- Syphon Mind - Draw and discard. Alternatively, Mind Twist is great to bait blue or ramp into early game to cripple another player.
- Yawgmoth's Will - Recursion
- Opposition Agent - Not needed but puts in a lot of work.
- Mana Vault - Ramp, works well with beseech
- Phyrexian Arena/Read the Bones/Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper - Decent draw to consider
- Peer into the Abyss - Super draw that can help you get half your library to find your combos and win. Alternatively, you can target an opponent for politics or you can target them and then cast another spell that makes them lose life = to what they those this turn to finish them
- Dauthi Voidwalker - As a substitute or redundancy for leyline.
Comments....
- Are 9 castable instants worth utilizing isochron scepter? I understand the high impact it can have. That being said, you should consider adding additional targets. Isochron itself usually get's 2 for 1ed as well.
- Your combos don't have a lot of synergy with each other. You have a demon + lifeloss which is a synergy, not so much a combo. You have isochron synergy, not combo, which isn't synergistic with the deck itself. Sanguine + Exquisite is solid, albeit costly. Lastly you have the leyline + helm combo which isn't synergistic with the deck. Rather than having a bunch of combos and tutors in the deck to assemble them as you lose to tempo and blue, why not cut down on 1-2 of the synergies/combos to add more draw or interaction to ensure your deck runs more smoothly and you can more easily protect your main combo and use a backup if necessary?
- Headgames is solid AF. That card alone is worth upvoting your deck, you have my respect
- Have you considered going into a bit more a control route? You have contamination that works very help. You have black removal to kill mana dorks but most decks utilize artifact ramp to get around that, what has your experience been with that? Other cards to consider this route are as follows....
A) Infernal Darkness - Its like contamination as it can bait blue, its easier to maintain (usually 1-2 turns is all you need) and doesn't impact your nykthos, lake or ancient tomb.
B) Karn, the Great Creator - It's static ability is a one-sided null rod, in conjunction with contamination/infernal darkness, is a strong soft-lock. It's first ability can help you remove artifacts that you have no other options to remove. It's second ability can bring back bolas, grindstone, painters servant, etc...
C) Null Rod - It does stop about 9 of your cards, but there are other decks that utilize way more artifacts than you.
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