Necrogen Mists

Enchantment

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player discards a card.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

Azoth2099 on Tergrid Sac Discard Draw help please

7 months ago

Asyriel

Ok, so here's a few top picks (imho) for Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip.

Oppression, Liliana, Waker of the Dead, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Living Death, Delirium Skeins, Innocent Blood, Cunning Lethemancer, Bottomless Pit, Necrogen Mists, Words of Waste, Smokestack, Sword of Feast and Famine & Chains of Mephistopheles (just proxy it lol)

There's also a lot of cheaper options that are just as synergistic like Plaguecrafter, Demon's Disciple, Raven's Crime, Hymn to Tourach, Mind Twist, Mind Shatter, Mind Slash & Sadistic Hypnotist.

Outside of the synergy pieces, I'd recommend replacing some of those low-power pieces like Bad Deal & Inevitable End with value pieces like Dark Ritual & Vampiric Tutor for greater consistency.

doktoras on Mono Black Pox Control

10 months ago

DreadKhan Thanks for your advice. I will consider very seriously to test first and then put them in the 75 if they perform well, the following 3 cards that you suggested me: Leechridden Swamp Necrogen Mists and Quest for the Nihil Stone.

DreadKhan on Mono Black Pox Control

10 months ago

I'm not sure if you have enough removal here to make them work, but I absolutely loved Phyrexian Totem in my Pox deck, it's an incredibly fast clock if people have an empty board. If you used Shrieking Affliction over The Rack you might try out Leechridden Swamp, these seem too small to matter, but in longer/slower games they are a nice surprise. Leechridden Swamp also likes Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage, which combines a Rack effect with the option of a discard effect, he's also a very good Rack, even at 3 mana.

I don't know what else you should run in their place, but is Fatal Push really a good fit in here? I usually see it run in decks that use Fetchlands. I think I'd just run x4 Sudden Edict and try to keep the board clear, is the targeting that key? There is also Liliana's Triumph and Geth's Verdict that each relevant have upsides and can hit big/durable stuff.

If you don't mind raising your budget a bit (and stay on The Rack) Urza's Saga can find a Rack for you, that's a lot better than paying 4 mana for a Wasteland I'd argue, and that ignores the supply of constructs you can get if you've got nothing better going on.

Have you ever tried out Necrogen Mists? It doesn't work well with stuff like Quest for the Nihil Stone, but it's great with The Rack, once you get one out the opponent no longer can sit on their cards, they only go down without serious card draw.

Really like what you've built, it's always nice to see different takes on the archetypes of Discard and Pox!

Icbrgr on Who Hurt You (WHY!?)

1 year ago

oooh very cool! maybe somthing like Necrogen Mists could be a great way to put the table in topdeck mode and get value from your commander?

DreadKhan on Discarded Treachery

1 year ago

I always like effects like Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists when I'm building a discard deck, these clear out a ton of cards over time, and even one will quickly make it very hard to keep any cards in hand past upkeeps. There is also Cunning Lethemancer, Necrogoyf, Stronghold Rats and maybe Raiders' Wake if you think you can count on being able to swing at someone. I like these effects more as a way to keep opponent's hands extremely small, they play more like a Stax effect in many ways. They play well with the 'cares about hand size' effects as well as 'cares about discard' effects, and as noted, make it very hard for people to store cards. Other than stuff like Mind Twist and Hymn to Tourach, I don't find single target discard is reliable at keeping hands small, 'engine' enchantments always felt really good.

Have you considered Helm of Possession and Ritual of the Machine, both can do great work in a sacrifice deck that can afford to lose a creature to steal something much juicier. I think Helm is usually the stronger card if people can't blow it up right away, but Ritual is Reserved List and prone to spiking when someone realizes it's potential. Both are a tad pricey, just thought I'd mention them.

Final point, if people are going to be discarding a bunch of creatures potentially, you might like Coffin Queen as a way to reanimate those pitched bodies, especially your opponent's stuff, as it gets exiled when it dies again. Demon of Dark Schemes can also work, not sure if you can generate enough energy to make it viable, but with stuff like Pitiless Plunderer it can go infinite reasonably easily.

DreadKhan on Uber For Phage?!

1 year ago

If you're looking for discard stuff, I use Bottomless Pit, Necrogen Mists, Cunning Lethemancer, Stronghold Rats, Necrogoyf and Creeping Dread as my best discard outlets in my Discard/Stax deck. No clue how many you'd want (if any), but these tend to be good at generating a lot of discard triggers if that's what you want, both for you and opponents.

Strong but not as consistent, you could look at Syphon Mind, it might be the best discard spell, but it's a one and done unfortunately. If you can generate a lot of bodies, Sadistic Hypnotist can clear out big hands. If you think you can consistently deal combat damage to opponents (via Shadows or other unblockables), Court of Ambition is really decent, offering damage and discard on the same card.

legendofa on Tourach, Dread Cantor

1 year ago

Welcome to the club, Thefrench!

How about some repeatable discard? Disrupting Scepter is kind of the low end, specter creatures like Abyssal Specter or Hypnotic Specter provide damage-based discard, and triggered discard like Bottomless Pit through Cunning Lethemancer and Necrogen Mists to Anvil of Bogardan provide reliable counters for your commander, depending on how much money you're willing to spend. Liliana's Caress gets a one-mana discount off Megrim for a very similar effect.

JoeSullivan718 on The Song of My People

2 years ago

Nathanael97

I hadn't thought of using Scrapheap Scrounger, I'll have to consider that. I've tried Raven's Crime and it's works okay but I typically prefer passive effects like Necrogen Mists or Oppression that effect all opponents rather than just one.

Glad you like the deck! I'm doing some experimentation and some changes may be coming soon.