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| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
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| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Hunted Troll
Creature — Troll Warrior
When Hunted Troll enters the battlefield, put four 1/1 blue Faerie creature tokens with flying into play under target opponent's control.
(Green): Regenerate Hunted Troll.
Rhadamanthus on Do i control the tokens …
5 months ago
Yes, that works. An effect that creates tokens always creates them under the control of whoever controls that effect unless it specifically says otherwise (like on Hunted Troll, for example). You control the Cursed Role tokens created by Asinine Antics.
Mave on
endles whispers edh
5 months ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
jdogz32 on
9 months ago
I really appreciate the feedback wallisface legendofa I completely took out white. It was mostly just instances of life gain. I replace Suture Priest with Blood Seeker and Blood Artist. I added that amazing Enchantment Illness in the Ranks I thought for sure I'd have to splash red for that same effect. I also tried to find more cards that added tokens to their side of the battlefield but came up mostly empty handed. The next best thing I could find was Hunted Horror the other hunteds I wasn't too impressed with. Hunted Troll wasn't bad but I don't think he's worth splashing another color for.
Baron_Pretzels on
Xira of the Beautiful Dresses
1 year ago
Interesting idea. I would suggest finding ways to give opponents creatures like with Goblin Spymaster or Akroan Horse the hunted cycle could work(Hunted Dragon,Hunted Troll) maybe not Hunted Horror that could backfire. Also Skullclamp would be great for card draw.
legendofa on
Death to Tokens
1 year ago
I think you could add something like Flooded Grove. The only cards that require multiple colored mana are Hunted Troll and Hunted Phantasm, so the double color can help you there, and it can convert a Watery Grave into a Sylvan Scrying.
And as I look at this again, I realize the only white card is Mercy Killing. My gut suggestion is to drop the Reflecting Pools for a Flooded Grove and a couple of Twilight Mires. In my experience, you can get by without for the first couple of turns, and that's when you really need and here.
If it works for your budget, I also recommend at least one more Overgrown Tomb. My impression is that the land sequence should be something like T1 Watery Grave or Overgrown Tomb, T2 shockland, Twilight Mire, or Woodland Cemetery, T3 Watery Grave or Flooded Grove.
Immortalys on
Thantis' Creature Donation Station
1 year ago
Amazing deck! I did not realise there was someone before me with this idea, and I love how your deck is looking. Cards to consider for your Maybeboard: Acorn Catapult, Death by Dragons, Elephant Resurgence, Kamahl's Summons, Plague of Vermin, Tempt with Vengeance, Artifact Mutation, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Curse of Disturbance, Liege of the Hollows, Sawtusk Demolisher, Akroan Horse, Hungry Lynx, Life of the Party, Sleeper Agent, Tahngarth, First Mate and lets not forget the "Hunted" cycle with Hunted Horror, Hunted Dragon and Hunted Troll
seshiro_of_the_orochi on Card creation challenge
1 year ago
Hunted Badger
Creature - Badger
Trample
When ~ enters the battlefield, target opponent creates three 1/1 white warrior creature tokens.
Whenever a creature you don't control dies, put a +1/+1 counter on each badger you control.
5/5
A little advertisement for a new tribal idea: Curvy Badgers (RG badger tribal)
Create a legendary "hunted" creature (compare Hunted Horror, Hunted Troll etc.). They exist in each colour. Maybe make it a viable commander for the archetype?
enpc on Killing by giving opponents "positive" …
1 year ago
TypicalTimmy: you can subscribe to threads without having to comment on them. There's a "Subscribe" button which does just that.
BigBadE: I think if you're going to build a 'killing them with kindness" deck then you're going to struggle if you limit yourself to black/red (assuming you're using Blim as commander). There are cards like Forced Fruition which can drown your opponents in cards. You can also look into cards like Suture Priest and Hunted Troll (i.e. giving your opponents creatures which then kills them).
many years ago, I played against a deck (it was 60 card multiplayer, not commander) which used Endless Whispers with cards like Bronze Bombshell and Phage the Untouchable to win the game. You could look into effects like that as well if it were what you're after.