Giant Adephage

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Giant Adephage

Creature — Insect

Trample

Whenever Giant Adephage deals combat damage to a player, create a token that is a copy of Giant Adephage.

RufusTheGrufus on Mono Green Stompy

3 weeks ago

Profet93, thank you for taking the time to check out the list and offer your suggestions!

I'm going to try my best to articulate my opinions of said suggestions:

-Rishkar's Expertise: I do enjoy this card quite a bit, and did originally have it in the list. It eventually got cut because the floor was too low for a 6 mana card; and I opted for a similar effect in Return of the Wildspeaker because it's one mana cheaper and has extra utility since it can help push through alpha strikes. I do feel like this deck could benefit from a bit more card advantage though.

-Pir's Whim: I actually completely forgot this card exists, I think this is a perfect swap suggestion, thank you!

-Traverse the Outlands: I totally get why you're suggesting this card, I think I personally just tend to shy away from more conditional ramp, removal, and card advantage; since typically if I'm desperately needing one of those effects I don't want to have to rely on satisfying an extra condition in order to achieve it. I think otherwise Traverse the Outlands could totally find a home in this kind of deck.

-Collector Ouphe, Manglehorn, Reclamation Sage: Collector Ouphe and Manglehorn are definitely great cards to include in this deck. My main hesitation with including them is because this decklist was made with the intent of having it be a bit more casual and less "feel bad" for when my playgroup wants to play with lower powered/more casually oriented decks. I love the idea of including them though and am adding them to the Maybeboard for further consideration! In terms of Reclamation Sage, it was in the decklist initially but ultimately got cut over more flexible pieces such as Krosan Grip, Beast Within and Return to Nature as I typically feel the need to have some options for instant speed removal; and I have a few pieces of creature-based artifact/enchantment removal that can target multiple things.

-Nissa's Pilgrimage: This is just an objectively better card than Cultivate in a mono-green deck, thank you!

-Yavimaya Hollow: Intriguing card, I'm definitely interested in testing it out!

-Turntimber, Serpentine Wood  Flip: I generally have an aversion to these flip lands. I totally get the arguments for playing them, I've just never felt inclined to play a majority of them. I'd be willing to give this one a shot in the list though to see if it exceeds my expectations; especially since it's so on-theme!

-Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma: I completely forgot about this guy, I'm interested in testing him out and am swapping him in over Giant Adephage; which was really just in the deck as a 'fun' pet card anyways.

-Shaman of Forgotten Ways, Somberwald Sage: I don't know how I forgot about Shaman of Forgotten Ways. Thank you for such a great suggestion, I slotted it in instead of Llanowar Tribe for now. Somberwald Sage I'm less sure of including at this point in time. I'll put it in the Maybeboard and keep thinking on it.

-Siege Behemoth: An interesting suggestion, I'm not sure if I'll find a home for it in the deck just yet but I'm adding it to the Maybeboard to consider!

-Berserk: This would be an incredibly fun include, I just need to find something to cut. It'll have to live in the Maybeboard for now.

-Life's Legacy, Greater Good: Since I'm truly a Golgari player at heart, and love playing around with sacrifice and my graveyard, these cards were definitely in consideration when I initially built this deck. I eventually opted for just Momentous Fall and not Life's Legacy because Momentous Fall can be cast at instant speed which allows it to be used in response to removal to help with rebuilding. If I had more synergy with sacrificing creatures baked into the deck, and/or more ways to utilize my own graveyard, I would definitely be including Greater Good. I'm adding them to the Maybeboard for now, especially since Greater Good may just be too much card advantage to turn down.

Thank you again for such considerate suggestions and for taking the time to look over the list!

wallisface on Endless Hunger

1 year ago

Fenrixx I would suggest at least ditching Beacon of Creation as it doesn't really synergize with anything you're doing, and is generally just a bad spell. I also think you're running too many cards as 1-ofs and 2-ofs, which is going to limit your ability to have a consistent plan, most of your deck should be playsets of those cards that matter most.

I still think going all-in on insect tribal is a bad approach here, especially as the only card that even remotely benefits from this tribe-restriction is Grist, and as said before, she'd benefit more from having a deck that can present other threats and supports her staying on-board for a long time, rather than just buffing her +1.

Around your Persist plans, it's interesting, but I think you're lacking the ability to reliably pitch cards into your grave. It feels like a lot of the time you're going to be stuck with these cards in hand indefinitely if they're drawn. Added to this, Persisting creatures is a lot of effort and really you want to get some massive payoff for doing so - like bringing back an Archon of Cruelty. I personally don't see the benefits being worth the hassle of bringing back these swole insects. Importantly, none of them do anything on the turn they enter, which is a big downside for their required investment.

A direction to try take this where insect-tribal might feel more relevant would be in some kind of land-ramp package. Combining Scute Mob, and Scute Swarm with lots of card that can let you play multiple lands each turn, could end up netting you some large rewards, and actually help validate these creatures being in the deck (it also might help validate Giant Adephage and Living Hive). I think if you're bringing any insects at all into a deck, you want it to be where those cards are actually decent choices to include, and then incidentally help Grist, as opposed to only existing in the deck because of their creature-type. At the moment it feels like your choosing cards based on their creature-type alone, which feels like a bad idea.

Fenrixx on Endless Hunger

1 year ago

wallisfaceThanks a lot for that detailed comment ...youre absolutly right about the Mortician Beetle but my thounght behind Scute Swarm was to have a 1 drop that has a good potential to get stronger so its not useless in later stages of the game. (i'm not playing competitive so eventhough moder tends to be over at turn 3-4 thats mostly not the case in my games.) and Hex Parasite is useful in a lot of matchups and at the very least i get to take my -1/-1 counter from Persist ;P Yes Giant Adephage,Hornet Queen and Living Hive are cards that normally need a lot of ramp but my plan here was actually to get the to the graveyard and reanimate them with Persist and also i love the idea to reanimate Grist, the Hunger Tide with Unearth since she is a 3 Mana insect creature when shes in the graveyrad.

wallisface on Endless Hunger

1 year ago

I think the big issue here is that you’ve built around Grist to an extreme, where most of your other cards become terrible on their own. Giant Adephage, Hornet Queen, Scute Mob and Scute Swarm all need to live in a deck able to dump a LOT of lands into play quickly to be useful, with only 22 lands and no ramp, these cards are either uncastable or nigh-on-useless. There’s alao ny synergy in your deck to make use of any of Hex Parasite, Hornet Nest, or Mortician Beetle.

It feels like you’ve focused your deck too heavily around the assumption that Grist will be in play, which puts you in a really terrible spot when you don’t draw it. Furthermore, Grist doesn’t need it’s +1 to trigger multiple times in a turn to be good - what Grist wants is a deck that can support her by providing other strong threats and distractions while she slowly out-values the board. That’s something you’re not providing her here.

Phule451 on

1 year ago

I’m surprised you’re not running Giant Adephage as it’s a great insect to make tokens. It’s always a good idea to have a few big beaters incase go wide gets shut down by your opponents. Swarmyard is a great way to keep your best stuff on the board.

I’d also be a bit concerned about your ramp. With the investment in the mana base for dual lands I’d at least throw in Nature's Lore and Skyshroud Claim

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