Fading Hope

Instant

Return target creature to its owner's hand. If its converted mana cost/mana value was 3 or less, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (22)

wallisface on

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

• 20 lands is extremely low considering how steep your mana curve is. I’d suggest going to at least 24.

• you’ve got 11 cards that let you assign combat damage with toughness, and while you obviously want that effect, you’ve currently got such-high density of these cards that you’re bound to draw into multiple redundant copies. I’d drop the number of these effects down to 8-9 (ditching 2-3 of the enchants).

• Glaring Aegis seems like a really bad card. You’ll almost never need the extra 3 toughness, and this just lets the opponent 2-for-1 you with a killspell.

• Skeleton Key is cute, but imo not particularly strong. You never want to draw a second copy of it. I’d suggest running an absolute maximum of 2, if at all.

• Fading Hope is almost always just giving you card disadvantage (the opponent still has all their cards, you just lost one).

• I know i’ve just dismissed all your 1-mana cards as being bad, but I do think you need some actually playable 1-mana cards so that you can do something turn 1. Spell Pierce, Preordain, and Utopia Sprawl are all good options.

• you really need more ways to interact with the opponent, your only viable option at the moment is Mana Leak… you need more options!

Andramalech on Enamored Rotpriest

2 months ago

BotaNickill Simic has provided me with the capability to guarantee my Priest sticks around, or at the very least we're avoiding traditional "dies to this" mentality, whether that's harsh blockers (we go flying and pick Thrummingbird) or were out classed in Beef ( we choose Bloated Contaminator ) but for the majority of the interaction, it's nice to have them lose a 2 to 1 type interaction with removal when you hold up a Fading Hope or something similar like how I hold up March of Swirling Mist. I'd strongly recommend you look into Bant Infect shells in order to see what handles best for you, but I promise Infect works best as a two color shell, because once we've hit three it tends to favor a Midrange style of play. Hope this was helpful! Best of luck building. :)

TheoryCrafter on The Drowned Perished

4 months ago

Personally, if I were going for redundancy in this deck, I'd have 3 copies of a lesser cost card, like Eaten Alive and Poppet Stitcher  ^Flip and 2 copies of a greater cost card, like Hero's Downfall and Geralf, Visionary Stitcher.

I don't think you have enough instants with a mana value of 2 or less to justify Discover the Impossible in your deck. May I suggest replacing them with either Fading Hope or Joint Exploration? Yes, you won't have any green to pay the kicker cost for Joint Exploration, but your opponents don't have to know that. >:D

May I suggest replacing Revenge of the Drowned with two more copies of either Crawl from the Cellar (for easier access to Poppet and Geralf) or No Way Out (for extra controlling aspects for the deck)? If these do not appeal to you then my next suggestion would be to replace Revenge of the Drowned with more zombie cards to feed into Archghoul of Thraben. May I suggest either Bladestitched Skaab or 2 more copies of Tainted Adversary? If you go with Bladestitched Skaab, I'd recommend replacing one copy of Champion of the Perished with it.

I hope all this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

Azoth2099 on Chun - li countless tokens

4 months ago

DreadKhan

Ohh yeah man, Crystal Shard is great here for sure. As many economically feasible ways to reset Chun-Li as possible is a must here, certainly. Unsummon, Vapor Snag, Fading Hope, Rescue, Curfew, Chain of Vapor, Alchemist's Retrieval, Unsubstantiate, Familiar's Ruse, Geistwave, Call to Heel, Snapback & of course Capsize (so much utility here) are all worth a thought here imo, seeing as how they are also instants that can easily be recurred via the Commander's ability.

Other less synergistic synergies like Vedalken Mastermind, Waterfront Bouncer, Trusted advisors, Shrieking Drake, Faerie Impostor, Seal of Removal, Turbulent Dreams, Aether Spellbomb, Otawara, Soaring City & Sanctum of Eternity could potentially help the deck push through to victory as well!

And then there's Intuition, which is obviously just insane lol.

legendofa on Dredgeless Dredge

7 months ago

Welcome to the club, spgscarrot!

What do you think about replacing Fading Hope with another mill card? I'm not a Pioneer expert, but the bounce + scry doesn't feel like it accomplishes much in this deck.

Cheesus2112 on Blue Raspberry Mill

9 months ago

Balaam__ Thanks for the advice!

When I ran a version of this deck in Arena, I found that without any control in the deck I was just getting rolled because even though I was milling well, if the other player got creatures onto the board I had no way of dealing with it (especially if they managed to get a planeswalker out early). So many times I'd run out of life before they ran out of cards because they got a 3 power or a flyer out early. Once I added in that removal/control I saw my win rate go way up. That's one of the reasons I added Brain Freeze so when I play something like Strangle/Fading Hope I'll Dual Strike Brain Freeze and mill 21 cards in a turn. If Bruvac is on the field when I do that, that's 2/3 of their deck gone in a single turn for 6 mana (5 mana if fortell spells count for the storm keyword on Brain Freeze.

But I'm definitely willing to reconsider if there's another avenue for removal/counter while maximizing my mill power.

Thanks again!

Cheesus2112 on Help for my Izzet Mill

9 months ago

wallisface Thanks so much for the feedback! Definitely some good things to consider here.

Here's some of the reasoning for the issues you pointed out to see where I was coming from. I'm still a wee babby when it comes to deck building, so I could be way off base here.

Mystical Tutor is there just to get a double casting or potent mill card into my hand more reliably than waiting for card draw. But can understand that it's a little slow. Are there any better cards to get that kind of value a little more efficiently?

The idea behind Brain Freeze was to play something like Fading Hope then a Dual Strike first, so the first casting gets me 9 cards, then the second gives me 12, for 21 cards in one turn (but not 100% if it stacks like that).

There's 25 lands, but 6 of them are fetch lands, so I'm really only rocking 19. The fetch lands are purely for my ruin crabs to get a bit of extra value. Plus each time I play a fetch land it takes another card out of my deck increasing my chances of grabbing one of the cards I need.

Expressive Iteration is there to give me a little card draw to get to my needed cards faster. I ran it in a version of this deck in Arena and it came in clutch a few times, usually letting me pull a land for my crabs and if nothing else getting me closer to my needed cards. Is there something else that could give me card draw?

Again, thanks for the advice! I really appreciate it!!

Balaam__ on Turbo Budget Competitive Wake Thrasher

9 months ago

@enpc and GrimlockVIII ah, thank you both! When I was building this I was tearing my hair out trying to remember those exact cards.

I knew Slip Through Space existed but could not for the life of me remember what the name was or even how it differed from Distortion Strike, so I couldn’t look it up based on parameters in Gatherer. Same with Fading Hope. These are going in immediately, and I’ll update the description when I have time. Thanks guys!