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I think your deck is on the right track, but needs differing utility.
I agree with taida that your curve is high, and thus would necessitate deck manipulation to achieve those or replacements altogether.
Ashiok is a weird choice, only because she exiles and takes two turns to have the good effect. I would just generic mill or destruction in its place. Thieve guild enforcer is low and gets the trigger.
I would recommend looking at the old rogue challenger deck from 2021 as it has a lot of cards to let you steal cards. Their gimmick has a lot of milk cards. www.moxfield.com/decks/zZHIVTZIEUqZcj2kOZPy0A
June 2, 2024 8:15 a.m.
Kind of crazy to see this forum from the future.
The cEDH landscape has altered and sped up so much a lot of what's said doesn't hold as much water.
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Narset is still weak, but suffers a lot of the same issues as stuff like Winota where a lot is based on RNG. Other commanders also do what she does but better like Elsha.
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stax is pretty good these days only because a lot of decks just go so fast. You can also have a silver bullet that stops so many people at the table you can run it: rule of law, torpor orb, cursed totem, null rod etc.
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stax is also no longer as much slow boring death, as a lot of decks can quickly get their wincon after shutting down opponents. i remember when I used to run a zur deck with lots of control, but now I've had to pivot to more stax as the game sped up and to maintain card advantage.
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being invisible/not the threat is kind of a winning strategy in any edh power level.
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teferi's still a good t2 deck. Kind of uses the philosophy as above. Not the threat. Same with godo, tatyova etc.
May 25, 2024 9:18 a.m.
To me, I think the green + red + other color decks are just really consistent already that they wouldn't run more than 2 of these. When the games are on curve and usually get more ramp or the big thing necessary, it's kind of redundant.
It gets an elf or burning tree out or the big thing in hand, but not much more.
there's also just not a lot of good 2cmcs like modern has like Bowmasters, Goyf, or Ragavan.
I'd love to get things like unlicensed hearse but vehicles aren't creatures...
3cmc also seems like the magic number in pioneer: lots of decks collected company gets up to 2 with 3cmc or less, so you're still well on curve/tempo.
I'm also on board with user:itsbuzzi With Jegantha. If I have to cast Jegantha , things aren't going well in my games.
May 21, 2024 2:50 a.m.
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#1I guess my take is
it's $9. People do like it
it's not on radar because it's just green doing green thing of getting big. It has the same energy and response of zopandrek and unnatural growth.
it's not anything that usually ends the game on turn it hits. Like the new voga in pioneer needs one combat to get massive damage. This needs a little more buildip. It's like a nerfed cathar crusade, but with less infinite combos (if they exist at all)
June 2, 2024 8:23 a.m.