Who loses first?

Asked by chaoswalker 6 years ago

Let us say each player has 1 life. Player A has a Strangleroot Geist with Rancor and Player B has a Blood Artist and a Liliana, Heretical Healer. Player A declares attack with the geist and player B blocks with the Liliana. Does Liliana die first, or does Player B lose first? Would the outcome be different if Player B blocked with the Artist?

a-sir says... #1

After combat damage has been dealt, Player B will be at 0 life while the Liliana, Heretical Healer will be at -1. When the state-based actions are checked the Liliana, Heretical Healer will die and Player B will lose the game.

This is because the Blood Artist trigger will only be put on the stack AFTER Liliana, Heretical Healer dies, which she does the first time SBA's are checked.

As for your second question, it would not have made any difference if the Blood Artist was assigned as a blocker instead. Blocking with both Blood Artist and Liliana, Heretical Healer would have made a huge difference.

July 7, 2017 5:59 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2

Liliana, Heretical Healer has lifelink, so Player B will gain 2 life at the same time that Liliana takes 3 damage and Player B takes 1 damage (assuming Strangleroot Geist doesn't have a +1/+1 counter on it). Player B will live with 2 life, and Blood Artist's ability will trigger. When the ability resolves, Player A will lose 1 life, then lose the game for having 0 life.

With Blood Artist, Blood Artist will take 1 damage at the same time Player B takes 3 damage. Blood Artist will be destroyed at the same time that Player B loses the game.

July 7, 2017 6:02 p.m.

a-sir says... #3

Oh wow... the above is correct! i completely forgot that Liliana, Heretical Healer has lifelink....

July 7, 2017 6:04 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #5

you would be correct if it was a X/3 creature without lifelink.

July 7, 2017 10:24 p.m.

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