Multiple replacement effects

Asked by Renaud 7 years ago

I have an Embermaw Hellion, and my opponent has an Orbs of Warding

What effect happens first if I try to ping him with Thermo-Alchemist?

Gidgetimer says... #1

Whichever one he choses.

616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected objects controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply

There are some guidelines to what order they must be chosen in if there are different types of replacement effects, but since those are both the same type we don't need to get into that.

August 18, 2016 11:13 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #2

Interestingly because of the way this works and 119.8 they can choose to prevent one of the damage with Orbs of Warding and then Embermaw Hellion will have no damage event to increase and they will take no damage.

119.8. If a source would deal 0 damage, it does not deal damage at all. That means abilities that trigger on damage being dealt wont trigger. It also means that replacement effects that would increase the damage dealt by that source, or would have that source deal that damage to a different object or player, have no event to replace, so they have no effect.

August 18, 2016 11:18 p.m.

Renaud says... #3

Ok, so in this case, the controller of the Thermo-Alchemist will be the one to choose the order, so it will always do 1 (unless he orders it wrong for some weird reason)

August 18, 2016 11:41 p.m.

Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #4

No. The opponent being dealt the damage will choose which effect to apply. The one not chosen will then have no effect at all. You don't stack them on top of each other, there's no order for them. It's one or the other.

August 19, 2016 12:10 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... #5

Please note also that if the player taking the damage does the replacement effects in the correct order they will take no damage. If they do them in the wrong order they will take 1.

August 19, 2016 8:26 a.m.

This discussion has been closed