interaction between Peregrin Took and Academy Manufactor

Asked by YStar27 10 months ago

if i create a token with Peregrin Took and Academy Manufactor out will i make infinite clues foods and treasures because every time i make a token i create an additional food from Peregrin Took and Academy Manufactor will then create a clue and treasure and start this loop again? i know these are replacement effects and it probably doesn't work like this but how does it work?

thanks

wallisface says... Accepted answer #1

Nah as they are replacement effects you choose the order they’re resolved in, but they won’t trigger infinitely off each other.

Example, where you make a single Clue, you could do one if the following:

  1. Have Peregrin Took resolve first, making it a Clue and a Food, and then have Academy Manufactor make that into 2 Food, 2 Clues, and 2 Treasure instead.

  2. Have Academy Manufactor resolve first, replacing it with a Clue, a Food, and a Treasure, and then have Peregrin Took add an additional Food (making a Clue, a Treasure, and 2 Food total).

July 3, 2023 4:26 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #2

While it may be helpful to refer to replacement effects "triggering" and "resolving" it is important to remember that they actually do neither. Replacement effects replace one game event with another without using the stack and can only apply to any one event a single time.

For a clue, food, or treasure applying the replacements in the optimal order will yield you 2 clues, 2 food, and 2 treasure (Applied order is Peregrin then Manufactor as wallisface explained above)

For a clue, food, or treasure applying the replacements in the sub-optimal order will yield you 1 clue, 2 food, and 1 treasure (Applied order is Manufactor then Peregrin, again as wallisface explained above)

For any token that is not a clue, food, or treasure will yield 1 clue, 1 food, 1 treasure, and the original token(s) (only possible order to apply is Peregrin then Manufactor)

July 3, 2023 5:17 p.m.

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