Faerie Artisans + Mirror of the Forebears. Can I keep the tokens from Mirror of the Forebears when it becomes Faerie Artisans again in another turn and makes a token again?
Asked by Mave 7 months ago
What I know so far is that tokens created from Faeries Artisans get removed whenever they make a new token unless they become a new instance (flicker bounce etc.) But what happens if I have a clone effect like Mirror of the Forebears that becomes Faerie Artisans then the Mirror makes a token. As long as the Mirror isn't a Artisans there is no effect that can remove the token it made. But if I later turn Mirror into the Faerie Artisans again it stays itself as an instance but are all tokens created by the Mirror affected by the new effect and get exiled when the Mirror as Faerie Artisans create a token?
Another example may be Volrath becoming a copy of Arcane Artisan and makes a token. Later Volrath becomes a Faerie Artisans similar like Mirror of Forebears will the tokens Volrath made as Arcane Artisan be exiled? I think this example may make it clearer.
In short do temporal copy effects like that still effect tokens created on earlier turns if the target is Faerie Artisans?
That makes sense and rvferse to all relevant rules for the interaction. This should help everyone who wants to know about turning sth into a temporal copy of Faerie Artisans. Thank you!
wallisface says... Accepted answer #1
Cards that reference their own name in rules text always only ever really mean “this card”, referring to itself.
So, for instance, the rules text on Faerie Artisans really reads: ”Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, create a token that's a copy of that creature except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. Then exile all other tokens created with this card.”.
What this means from your questions:
you can’t flicker/bounce tokens and have them come back. This is always the case for all tokens, and has nothing to do with these interactions.
if you flicker/bounce Faerie Artisans, any existing tokens its created will be immune to being removed from any future effects by the bounced card.
if Mirror of the Forebears copies Faerie Artisans to make tokens, any previous tokens it made will be removed (regardless of what turn they were made).
same goes for Volrath, the Shapestealer, if it creates a token as Faerie Artisans, any previous tokens it’s made will be removed, regardless of what turn they were made, or what creature/effect Volrath was copying to make them
October 23, 2023 6:51 a.m.