Does Liesa return Sword of the Realms?
Asked by Quickspell 5 months ago
I probably can answer this to myself, but I need to make sure.
When Sword of the Realms Flip is out into a graveyard, it becomes the creature Halvar, God of Battle Flip again, since that is the face side of the MDFC card.
Since it was an artifact when put into a graveyard, it did not die and therefore Halvar will not be returned with Liesa, Forgotten Archangel, is that correct?
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
LTB triggers (including "dies" triggers) check the existence of objects right before the triggering event happens. So what Liesa, Forgotten Archangel sees for the purposes of triggering is that an artifact was put into the graveyard. For the same reason something like Disciple of the Vault would trigger when Sword of the Realms Flip is put into a graveyard, despite it being Halvar, God of Battle Flip the entire time the card exists in the graveyard.
603.10. Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions, and continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities are exceptions to this rule; the game “looks back in time” to determine if those abilities trigger, using the existence of those abilities and the appearance of objects immediately prior to the event. The list of exceptions is as follows:
603.10a Some zone-change triggers look back in time. These are leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a card leaves a graveyard, and abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library.
December 21, 2023 7:24 a.m.