Astral Dragon + Dragon Tempest
Asked by Pedrodamus 1 year ago
Let's say I have a total of 5 dragons including the Astral Dragon and the copies. If I have the Astral Dragon etb resolve first and have my dragon copies enter as copies of Dragon Tempest , how many instances of Dragon Tempest damage do I have? The way I'm working this out in my head, which may be completely wrong, is that Astral Dragon and the copies all enter at the same time and each trigger sees 5 dragons for a total of 9 instances of 5 damage?
Rhadamanthus says... #2
Note that you need to be clear about what order you put some of these on the stack in order to get 5 damage from all of the Dragon Tempest triggers. When Astral Dragon enters the battlefield and triggers both itself and the Tempest, you need to put the Tempest trigger on the stack first and then the Astral Dragon trigger on the stack on top of it so that the tokens get created before that first Tempest trigger resolves.
April 6, 2023 8:31 a.m.
I have an additional question to this. If i have Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm and Dragon Tempest on field when casting Astral Dragon, am i getting 6 times 4 damage and 14 times 7 damage to distribute? So in total this would bring 122 Damage to the table.
First stack:
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Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm trigger
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Astral Dragon trigger -> this brings 2 additional Dragon Tempest, resulting in 6 Dragon Tempest triggers seeing 4 dragons
Then the Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm trigger resolves, giving you two more Dragon Tempest for a total of 5, resulting into a total of 14 Dragon Tempest trigger (1 for the first Astral Dragon, 3 for the second Astral Dragon and 10 for the last 2 tokens) each seeing 7 dragons.
Am i right here or was i getting lost somewhere?
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
Astral Dragon has to have entered the battlefield for its enter the battlefield ability to trigger. You will only have the non-token Dragon Tempest at that time. When the copy ETB resolves you will get two 3/3 dragon Dragon Tempests each of which will trigger from themselves and the other token. The non-token dragon tempest will trigger from each token as well.
You will get 7 instances of 5 damage.
April 6, 2023 7:39 a.m.