Blue rare voting nominees
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Posted on Aug. 5, 2010, 5:58 p.m. by Xander574
landot
Bagan's Golem
3u
Creature - Homarid Octopus Fish Wizard Golem Horror "Bagan's Golem may block any number of creatures. Sacrifice a Creature: Bagan's Golem gets +x/+0 until end of turn, where x is the sacrificed creature's toughness." First Strike, Islandwalk 3/2
Kaiote
Stridulating Swarm
1uu Creature - Mutant Insect
"If you control a Forest, Stridulating Swarm gets +1/+2 and Trample. If you control a Mountain, Stridulating Swarm gets +2/+1 and Haste."
Flying 2/2
exarkun809
Amoebid Impermanent 2uu Creature - Shapeshifter "The flow cost of all cards is reduced by 1. If a flow cost has been paid this turn, Amoebid Impermanent gains +2/+2, flying, first strike, trample, and protection from black and from white until the end of the turn."
Changeling, Shroud
3/3
DeckBuilder345
Flow Sphinx 3uu Creature - Sphinx
(2) Draw a card, cast this card for its flow cost or discard the card. Flying 4/4
missychomp
Obsessed Wizard uuu Creature - Wizard
"Whenever You draw a card put a +1/+0 counter on Obsessed Wizard Whenever you discard a card put a -1/-0 counter on Obsesses Wizard" First Strike 2/2
Sem48
Sphinx of the flow
3u creature sphinx Flying at the begining of your end step if yuou had drawn more than one card this turn you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~ Flow 3uu flying 3/4 (this is one of three cards i htink we should make an uncommon. what do you guys think)
Squire1 Flow's Servant
uu4 Creature-Dragon Sphinx Mutant
UU:Flows servant gains -2/+2 until end of turn
UU:Flow's servant gains +2/-2 until end of turn
Tap: Draw 2 cards. Return flow's servent to owners hand. 4/4
Dr_mcmeen
Viscous Plasma
2u creature-shapeshifter
T:viscous plasma's power and toughness become equal to the number of cards you've drawn this turn. (forever) flow UU. 0/1
Jarrod_0067 Rhyne Delta Sphinx 6uu Legendary Creature - Sphinx "1U: Draw a card and discard a card. UUU: Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand. If it has Flow, you may reveal it and cast it for its flow cost. If you do, draw a card."
Flying 5/6
BrownDog5117
Overburdened Mage 2uuu
Legendary Creature - Wizard UUU(tap)- Return target creature to owner's hand. Draw a card. .2/3
Iron Head
Flood season UU2 Enchantment Cards in your hand and library with flow have a flow cost equal to their manna cost.
drizzy
Flow of Nature 1uu Enchantment At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If it is a land card you may reveal it and put it into your hand.
RetSpline
Exhaustive Research 3uuuu
Enchantment "All Flow costs are increased by U Whenever a player casts a spell by paying its Flow cost, that player may draw a card. Discard a card: Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one on the bottom of your library and the other on the top of your library. Any player may use this ability."
honeymomo
Labour's Fruit 1uu Enchantment Whenever an opponent plays a spell you may draw a card.
leon_raymond
Relapse Void 4uu Enchantment Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell from your hand you may pay X where X is the converted mana cost of that spell. If so, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
Squire1 Shapeshifter essence
uu tribal aura-shapeshifter
when a creature enters the battlefield enchanted creature becomes a copy of that creature.
leon_raymond
Flowstorm 4uu Enchantment All non-land cards in your library have Flow X where X is its converted mana cost.
Iron Head
Mental Block U
Instant Target Player cannot draw cards this turn
Sem48
flowing thoughts uu
instant target player draws a card. If that player had drawn more than one card this turn draw two cards instead. (Second Uncommon slot for me.)
Suppressed08
Bagan's Trickery 2u
instant Target creature becomes a copy of target creature until end of turn. another target creature an opponent contorls becomes a 0/2 until end of turn flow UU (i tried not to include flare text for cards but this one was a little to good haha) "ITs child's play really, make our soldiers cats, and theirs mice." -Bagan (Last unccomon auto include card. (imo)
Battlecry1986
Time Scramble 3u
Instant When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Shuffle the exiled cards back into your library. Then look at the top 3 cards of your library, then shuffle any number of them into your library put the rest on top in any order, then draw a card Flow: 3U
SocialistElite
thought storm
n/a sorcery Draw x cards shuffle thought storm back into your library flow X
leon_raymond
Unblock the Mind 3uuu
Sorcery Draw 4 Cards. Until end of turn, Islands you draw have Flow 0 (until end of turn, whenever you draw an Island you may play it and draw another card)
shaistyone
Bagan's Waterfall 2u
Sorcery Reveal cards from the top of your library until a card with Flow is revealed. You may cast it without paying its Flow cost. Put the rest of the revealed cards on the bottom of your library in any order. Flow: 1UU
i think sphinx of the flow sould be uncommon and taken out for that.
I also dont like DeckBuilder345 Flow Sphinx 3uu Creature - Sphinx (2) Draw a card, cast this card for its flow cost or discard the card. Flying 4/4
I also dont know if this fits.
landot Bagan's Golem 3u Creature - Homarid Octopus Fish Wizard Golem Horror "Bagan's Golem may block any number of creatures. Sacrifice a Creature: Bagan's Golem gets +x/+0 until end of turn, where x is the sacrificed creature's toughness." First Strike, Islandwalk 3/2
August 6, 2010 1:28 p.m.
mistergreen527 says... #4
When converting all of this text into proper WotC-speak, I noticed a few things I didn't notice before. Since some of the cards seem to have issues, I think that we should do the 5 of each type idea. Here are my thoughts on each card and whether or not I think they should be presented to the community.
Creatures:
Bagan's Golem: I agree with Xander574 with the card not fitting. The creature type is absurd and even if I change it to just "Mutant," it's still a blue card with abilities that belong in other colors (first strike = red, block any number of creatures white, sacrifice a creature = black). I vote NO.
Stridulating Swarm: Although I had originally voted for this card, I now think it is overpowered. I liked the idea of it changing based on its environment, but the positive aspects in flavor don't outweigh the negative aspects of being overpowered. I vote NO.
Amoeboid Impermanent: I originally didn't like this card because it seemed to mish-mashy. However, with a few small changed, I like it. I already removed Changeling. I also propose removing protection from black and protection from white, since these colors are foreign to Irindu. This makes it more similar to kithkin-zephynaut, while being different enough for them not to be connected. The shroud may also be overdoing, but I suppose it IS rare... If at least the protection is removed, I vote YES.
Flow Sphinx: The main reason I like this card is it encourages players to use cards with Flow. I feel like it's almost like a "Flow Lord." If your deck has a lot of flow cards in it, it's awesome. If not, there's no point in using it. The ability cost does seem too low though. I think it should either costs 3 or 4 mana or it should tap to use the ability. I vote YES.
Obsessed Wizard: There are several issues I have with this card. First of all, I think the costs contains too much blue for Irindu. Secondly, it has first strike, which doesn't belong to blue. Finally, +1/+0 and -1/-0 counters are all but dead in the world of Magic (as in they don't make cards that use them any more). If the cost is changed to 2U, the first strike is removed, and the counters are changed to +1/+1 and -1/-1, I would like it a lot better. However, I feel that these changes deviate too far from the original, so I vote NO.
Sphinx of the Flow: I know that Xander574 really wants to put this in as an uncommon, but I think we should give it a chance as a rare first (since that's what it was submitted as). If the community likes it as a rare, we should keep it as a rare. If the community doesn't like it as a rare, THEN we can put it in an uncommon slot. Small adjustments in both the regular and flow costs can make it feel more rare if it gets the community's votes. I vote YES.
August 6, 2010 7:30 p.m.
mistergreen527 says... #5
Flow's Servant: I love this card. The cost could possibly be reduced, since the last ability implies you will keep replaying it. The other thing I was wondering is if in the last ability, should returning it be part of the cost? Doing this would make it able to save itself at basically split second speed. What do you guys think? Either way, I vote YES.
Viscous Plasma: I think this may be my favorite creature that was submitted. I vote YES.
Rhyne-Delta Sphinx: I think the last ability costs too much blue for Irindu. Also, if we give any instant or sorcery a low flow cost, the last ability is just broken. Finally, we're letting the flow cost be played even if the card isn't being drawn? I vote NO.
Overburdened Mage: The amount of blue on this card needs to be reduced. Also, with a name like that, there's no need for this to be Legendary. With these small changes, the card is alright, but I like others better. Because of this, I vote NO.
Enchantments:
Flood Season: Could help, could hurt. It's scope of playability seems low though, so I vote NO.
Flow of Nature: I love how this card helps you get to your flow cards before your draw step. However, this should be a green Irindu card, not blue. I vote NO.
Exhaustive Research: I know I'm becoming a broken record, but that mana cost has way too much blue for a set focused on multicolored. Other than that, I like how it encourages using flow, but it seems weird that it effects all players the same way. I'd consider making it only benefit yourself. With these changes, I vote YES.
Labour's Fruit: I love Rhystic Study and this is an even better version. Even though Rhystic Study is a common and this is a rare, this may be too good. I think the mana cost needs to be increased. Or, maybe the controller has to pay 1 for each card draw. Playtesting will tell. I vote YES.
Relapse Void: The ability doesn't scream Irindu, but I don't know if this would really belong on any of the other blue shards either. Everything about it seems fair, so I vote YES.
Shapeshifter Essecne: Tons of potential. Probably my favorite enchantment that was submitted. I vote YES.
Flowstorm: This feels like one of those cards you can't wait to play, especially for a blue player. It adds a cantrip to all of their counters. It may be too powerful, so the cost may need an increase. I only barely like this better than Flood Season, so it gets the YES.
August 6, 2010 7:31 p.m.
mistergreen527 says... #6
Instants/Sorceries:
Mental Block: Probably my favorite instant/sorcery submission. If it seems too underpowered, we could always have it affect all opponents and last until your next upkeep. I vote YES.
Flowing Thoughts: Wsy too underpowered in its current state for a rare. I say we either decrease the cost to one blue, or change the two cards to three cards. It has potential, so I vote YES.
Bagan's Trickery: I have a couple of possible adjustments. First of all, should the 0/2 effect happen first so that it is possible to turn two creatures into 0/2s? Secondly, should the 0/2 creature also lose its abilities? This card has a lot of possibilities and feels like Irindu. I vote YES.
Time Scramble: I see this card as a more expensive Ponder that has cascade. Shuffling twice on one card also rubs me the wrong way. I vote NO.
Thought Storm: I would really like to have a card that can only be cast using flow. I'm not sure that this should get shuffled back into the library though. Other than that, I vote YES.
Unblock the Mind: Lands aren't cast. Because of this, they can't have alternative costs. It's still possible to have this do something similar by revealing the four cards, then drawing an additional card for each revealed Island, but I think that's too wordy. Also, the cost seems too high and has too much blue (you know I was gonna say it). I vote NO.
Bagan's Waterfall: I really like this card, but the wording is a little tricky. Do they get to draw a card for playing the card without paying its cost or no? With some clarification, I vote YES.
What do you guys think? Let me know which cards you agree with me on and if you disagree, what's your counter-argument?
August 6, 2010 7:31 p.m.
Bagans Waterfall- I think they do its basically flows version of Telemin Performance .
August 6, 2010 8:13 p.m.
creatures
Bagan's Golem
vote no
Stridulating Swarm
A little overpowered. If it started as a 1/1, the cost were increased or it got +1/+1 for each I would be on board. Vote Yes
Amoebid Impermanent
Just wierd. Vote no- ish. I like wierd.
Flow Sphinx
I like this. Vote yes.
Obsessed Wizard
If you take off first strike and change the counters to +1/+0 and -0/-1 respectively, then yes. Vote yes.
Sphinx of the flow
I llike it as is. Vote yes.
Flow's Servant
My card I obstain from voting.
Dr_mcmeen
Love it. Vote yes.
Rhyne Delta Sphinx
could be OP. Don't like it much anyway, but could be really broken. Vote no.
Overburdened Mage
Good. Vote Yes.
August 7, 2010 12:29 p.m.
Enchantments
Flood season
Whatever, vote yes.
Flow of Nature
Seems a bit off color to me, but not bad. I vote, who cares.
Exhaustive Research
I like this enough. Vote yes.
Labour's Fruit
I vote yes
Relapse Void
Vote yes.
Shapeshifter essence
my card I abstain
leon_raymond
Flowstorm 4uu
I don't know this may be OP in playtesting. It could be fine, because you have to depend on topdecking. I vote yes with a possibility of killing this card later.
August 7, 2010 12:42 p.m.
Instant/sorceries
Mental Block U
love this as a blue version but weaker of silence. Vote yes.
flowing thoughts uu
Like it maybe uncommon but I like it for a rare. Vote Yes.
Bagan's Trickery 2u
Totally a rare. Vote yes.
Time Scramble 3u
OP. Vote no
thought storm
OP. vote no.
Unblock the Mind
Maybe a multicolored card but vote no
Bagan's Waterfall 2u
OP. vote no.
August 7, 2010 12:57 p.m.
landot Bagan's Golem Sacrificng doesnt fit. the creature type is also redicoulous. NO
Kaiote Stridulating Swarm IM gonna disagree the double blue in the casting cost makes it less broken then you would think. it only gets super big turn four. and thats only with a perfect hand. YES
exarkun809 Amoebid Impermanent WOrks with flow YES
DeckBuilder345 Flow Sphinx 3uu Creature - Sphinx not enough for me no
missychomp Obsessed Wizard uuu Creature - Wizard make em regular counters then YES
Sem48 Sphinx of the flow I mean i think it should be used to yes
Squire1 Flow's Servant love it yes.
Dr_mcmeen Viscous Plasma Love it yet
Jarrod_0067 Rhyne Delta Sphinx 6uu Legendary Creature - Sphinx It works with flow a little too blue heavy. no
BrownDog5117 Overburdened Mage 2uuu Legendary Creature - Wizard UUU(tap)- too blue heavy and THIS ISNT CONTROL no.
Iron Head Flood season I didnt like any of the submissions that did this. so no
drizzy Flow of Nature 1uu Enchantment maybe should be green but works great with flow yes.
RetSpline Exhaustive Research 3uuuu Enchantment Way to much no
honeymomo Labour's Fruit 1uu Enchantment May be a little broken but YES
leon_raymond Relapse Void 4uu Enchantment I like it yes
Squire1 Shapeshifter essence EYS YES YES and MORE YES
leon_raymond Flowstorm 4uu Enchantment there is no cost for lands but that can be fixed. BUt its good. yes
Iron Head Mental Block U I really like this one. it may be slightly underpowered, but otherwise is really cool.
Sem48 flowing thoughts uu Uncommon so no
Suppressed08 Bagan's Trickery 2u YES YES YES AND MORE YES>
Battlecry1986 Time Scramble 3u ponder, and cascade? nah.(no)
SocialistElite thought storm I really really like this one. yes
leon_raymond Unblock the Mind 3uuu I think if it said
Draw 4 Cards. Until end of turn, Islands you draw have until end of turn, whenever you draw an Island you may play it and draw another card
SO yes
shaistyone Bagan's Waterfall 2u I like it. YES
August 8, 2010 2:46 a.m.
Creatures
landot Bagan's Golem 3 nos- (out)
Kaiote Stridulating Swarm 2 yes, 1 no
exarkun809 Amoebid Impermanent 2 yes 1 no
DeckBuilder345 Flow Sphinx 2 yes 1 no
missychomp Obsessed Wizard 2 yes 1 no
Sem48 Sphinx of the flow 3 yes
Squire1 Flow's Servant 2 yes 1 n/a
Dr_mcmeen Viscous Plasma 3 yes
Jarrod_0067 Rhyne Delta Sphinx 3 no (out)
BrownDog5117 Overburdened Mage 2no 1 yes (out)
ENCHANTMENTS
Iron Head Flood season 2 no 1 yes (out)
drizzy Flow of Nature 1 yes, 1 no, 1 n/o (out)
RetSpline Exhaustive Research 2 yes 1 no
honeymomo Labour's Fruit 3 YES
leon_raymond Relapse Void 3 yes
Squire1 Shapeshifter essence uu tribal aura-shapeshifter 3 yes
leon_raymond Flowstorm 3 yes
SORCERY INSTANTS
Iron Head Mental Block U 3 yes.
Sem48 flowing thoughts uu 2 yes 1 no
Suppressed08 Bagan's Trickery 2u 3 yes
Battlecry1986 Time Scramble 3u 3 no (out)
SocialistElite thought storm 1 no 2 yes
leon_raymond Unblock the Mind 3uuu 1 yes 2 no. (out)
shaistyone Bagan's Waterfall 2u 2 yes 1 no
As things are it appears we now have 7 creatures, 5 enchantments, and 5 spells.
August 11, 2010 2:20 a.m.
ok great. If Green mocks those up I can post an article for people to vote, if that is our next step
August 11, 2010 8:28 a.m.
Hello, finally they have reprinted fetchlands! I'm very happy but I don't if now it's time to buy or wait until the release of KoT. Also I would like to ask what kind of fetches(I mean colours) I should buy, I expect to have about 200$ to spend for them during these months. Thanks for your answers!:)
September 1, 2014 7:03 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #15
Polluted Delta and Flooded Strand will be the ones to see the most rise after they rotate.
September 1, 2014 7:27 p.m.
trentfaris242 says... #16
Some of the Onslaught fetches have already dropped $15.
September 1, 2014 7:29 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #17
"Some" my LGS sold me the Onslaught Deltas I needed for legacy at $50 each, instead of 80-90 like before.
September 1, 2014 7:31 p.m.
trentfaris242 says... #18
Ya the Wooded Foothills are usually 45-50 and there are now some on TCGPlayer for 25.
September 1, 2014 7:42 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #19
And Misty Rainforest and the bunch are down because they aren't needed in decks out of their colors. It's Like WotC know I like Christmas in September.
September 1, 2014 7:45 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #20
"needed in modern decks out of their colors*" I jumped the gun on that.
September 1, 2014 7:46 p.m.
Brilliant! Now let us cross our fingers for a duel deck Snapcaster Mage .
Serious Modern seems almost affordable now. Almost.
September 1, 2014 10:23 p.m.
Cut off post was cut off...
... Bet your money on Flooded Strand and Windswept Heath .
September 1, 2014 10:26 p.m.
I would like to buy Flooded and Delta for now, do you think that they'll reprint zendikar fetchlands on the next expansion?
September 2, 2014 4:50 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #24
No, no they won't. It would mean that one colour has more land access than the other.
September 2, 2014 5:52 a.m.
I fully expect zen reprints in the last set, since you know, they specifically said theyre printing all 10 lajds of each cycle in the blocks
September 2, 2014 9:44 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #26
@Femme_Fatale What do you mean by that? All the colors would have equal land access with all ten fetches.
September 2, 2014 9:47 a.m.
KrosanTusker says... #27
Enemy-colour pairs have pain lands from M15. With ally fetches, this is balanced.
September 2, 2014 9:59 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #28
Right, I forgot about painlands. It still seems strange to print weird half-cycles after what they've said about it.
Standard was fine before with the fastlands from Scars making mana unbalanced, or so I think.
September 2, 2014 10 a.m.
KrosanTusker says... #29
Also, buy now. They are a new card (for Modern) that will make an immediate impact and be sought after by every Modern player out there. Get them as soon as you can; particularly U/W.
September 2, 2014 10:03 a.m.
KrosanTusker says... #30
Reply to comment 14: Wizards are printing more lands to make mana fixing easier. They take the view that the game is more fun when you can cast spells, which makes sense. To this end, we're going into a Standard with 10 scry lands, 5 fetches, 5 pain lands, 5 tri lands and Mana Confluence , as opposed to, say, 5 fast lands and ten check lands (as in Scars/Innistrad Standard).
September 2, 2014 10:09 a.m.
Or dont buy them now, I would bet my ons fetches that prices drop 1-2months into release vs what the preorder price is. Theyre rares not mythics, and already will caus more boxes to be opened. Sure if you need a set for a big modern event go ahead but otherwise save money and wait
September 2, 2014 1:31 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #32
I think they'll go up. Preorder prices expect a huge influx of supply, which will happen, but don't take into account the massive demand which will quickly increase once players start testing with them.
September 2, 2014 5:07 p.m.
Where I can find fetches at good price? Do you have some sites which you can recommend?
mistergreen527 says... #2
I'd really like to organize this into 5 creatures, 5 enchantments, and 5 instant/sorceries to present to the community. We currently have 10 creatures, 7 enchantments, and 7 instants/sorceries. Actually, it may be better to just have 7 of each then. If I take out the 3 creatures that only got a vote from me, we'll be at 7 of each type. Does this sound okay? In the meantime, I'll start turning these into concept cards.
August 6, 2010 11:55 a.m.