Does Collected Company work with Myr Retriever?
Asked by rorofat 8 years ago
I think this is pretty self explanatory, but here we go:
If I use a Collected Company while a Heartless Summoning is in play, and I hit 2 Myr Retriever, can I go infinite with them, or do they die at the same time, making neither one register the other one as in the graveyard?
Thanks, and I feel like an idiot for not knowing this :)
hyperlocke says... #2
Yes. When they are put into the graveyard, their abilities will go on the stack. When the abilities resolve, the myrs will see each other in the graveyard.
September 23, 2015 6:38 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #3
@hyperlocke: Note that it is important that the Myr Retrievers be legal targets, and targeting happens when the abilities are put onto the stack, not when the abilities resolve.
September 23, 2015 6:40 p.m.
FancyTuesday says... #4
State based actions are handled simultaneously, and only after they move both Myr Retrievers to the graveyard will their "dies" triggers go on the stack. So both will be in the graveyard with 2 "return another target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand" triggers waiting to resolve.
The complication is that their ability says "another target artifact" meaning it cannot target itself, so they may both target each other but unless you have some means to cast them and let them die as an instant you will not be able to get them into the graveyard for the other to target.
September 23, 2015 6:40 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
@FancyTuesday: That last bit is not quite accurate. By the time you're able to play either Myr Retriever, you'll have both in your hand. You'll be able to play one, it'll die, and its ability will fail to be placed onto the stack (unless there's another artifact in your graveyard). You can then play the other. It'll die, and you'll be able to target the first one with the second one's ability. You can just alternate them at this point.
September 23, 2015 6:46 p.m.
FancyTuesday says... #6
Ah I see, I was sitting here puzzling over what I was missing because if that bit wasn't obvious then you wouldn't need 2 to begin with. Complete brain fart on just letting one die and tagging it with the second.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
Both Myr Retrievers die simultaneously, and their abilities trigger simultaneously. When you put each ability onto the stack, the Myr Retrievers will be in the graveyard (they obviously have to die before the ability triggers), so each one will be a legal target for the other's ability. You'll be able to start the infinite morbid combo.
September 23, 2015 6:38 p.m.