Controlling Other Players

Asked by polydeuces17 7 years ago

I read the rulings of Cruel Entertainment on gatherer but I still am not quite sure what it means can be done when a player controls another.For clarity please answer as if it's you controlling another player lol.

hyperlocke says... Accepted answer #1

Well, basically it means I get to do anything you could legally do. I can't force you to concede.

  • I get to look at information normally hidden from me (your hand, and, with the right cards (eg tutors) your library).
  • I can cast cards or activate abilities you could legally cast/activate. I can cast them from any zone you could legally cast them from, and at any time you could legally cast/activate them.
  • I may spend your (and only your) resources to do all that.
  • I can attack with your creatures.
  • etc pp. There are many possibilities. The most important thing is that everything has to be a legal move.

While I control you, I still get to make any decisions as me. I can assign my creatures as blockers, I can chose to react to stuff I do while controlling you.


Example:

  • It is now your turn. I take control of you.
  • I get to look at your hand.
  • You draw a card.
  • I see that you have two lands in hand, but decide to play none. Or I play your Evolving Wilds, sacrifice it and take a good look at your library. I decide to find nothing.
  • I move to Combat. I decide to attack me with your pesky 10/10 creature. In the Declare Blockers Step, I block it with my Acidic Slime.
  • I use your Path to Exile on one of your creatures and decide not to search for a basic land.
  • I cast a creature from your hand and use your Counterspell to counter it (You have an awesome deck, by the way!)
  • I cast your Thoughtseize and look at your hand, discarding a card and losing 2 life.
  • Finally I tap all your remaining mana sources and end the turn.
February 6, 2017 1:18 p.m. Edited.

Panzerforge says... #2

Silly things I've seen attempted (that are all illegal.)

"I discard your hand."
Not an option without a spell or ability doing it.

"I attack you with your own creature and then block with your other two creatures."
Illegal.

"I (with no sac outlet) sacrifice these creatures."
People WISH this was legal.

If you can't normally do something, then that doesn't change when you're playing as someone else.

February 7, 2017 3:52 a.m.

Other things I DO get to do while controlling your turn:

Look at facedown cards in exile (if you could look at them); for example, if you have previously cast Gonti, Lord of Luxury and taken a card from my deck, I can look at that card while I control you, and can cast it if I so choose.

Look at morph/manifested creatures you control.

February 7, 2017 11:06 a.m.

BlueScope says... #4

Let's have a more general, all-around explanation for what you can and can't do:
You get to make any and all ingame decisions for that player, as if you were playing two decks at once. You also have access to all private information that player would have. You don't get to make any outside-of-game decisions, such as conceding, buying another player a drink, or gifting away cards.

February 7, 2017 12:04 p.m.

Panzerforge says... #5

There needs to be more "target player buys you a drink" cards, BlueScope.

February 7, 2017 1:24 p.m.

BlueScope says... #6

@Panzerforge: Yeah, but they don't make 'em like Ashnod anymore... nowadays, you just get the Jaces of Many Faces...

February 7, 2017 1:58 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #7

Once this question has been answered to your satisfaction, please select an answer to remove this thread from the active queue.

February 7, 2017 7:36 p.m.

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