Commander 2017 - Spoilers
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Posted on Aug. 7, 2017, 6:05 a.m. by Ska4Life1989
So looks like the spoilers have started. Cat deck first :D
https://twitter.com/Wizards_MagicEU/status/894475705614041088
and
https://www.facebook.com/MagicTheGathering/photos/a.215689245306.266597.201120755306/10159048875620307/?type=3
No idea how to link properly so sorry about that >.<
Here you go.
It looks like they can't decide whether cats are voltron, tokens, or stompy. I haven't either, really.
August 7, 2017 7:56 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #4
Any idea how many cards we'll get a day? just two isn't enough :(
Also, when do they release the full deck lists? End of the week? Or longer? Already ordered all 4 now >.<
August 7, 2017 8:54 a.m.
We'll probably get 5-10 a day for the next five days. Friday they'll likely drop the entire lists
I too am excited for Traverse the Outland for my r/g and maybe even mono-g Omnath builds! Five lands and five 5/5s for five mana sounds solid
August 7, 2017 9:06 a.m.
Winterblast says... #6
I'm a bit unsure when to buy the 4 deck package. At the moment I could buy it for 90 Euro including shipping but will the price continue to fall? Are the decks even worth that much? I would definitely buy the cat deck, but I'm not sure if the rest justify spending that much on the whole pack...
August 7, 2017 9:22 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #7
Well i got all 4 for 84, i dont expect the prices to fall. There will always be some decent reprints in there somewhere and the decks are generally worth the price you pay (excluding RRP which is probably worth it just about in one or two of the decks, if the decks are semi-decent). If there are any super good reprints the decks will sell out super quick. figure at 22/deck even if it is a dud, will still ebay for that amount after they sell out eventually.
August 7, 2017 9:31 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #8
I like Balan... he's a solid addition to any voltron strategy and I wouldn't mind running him as the man in charge. Always fun to have commanders to swap out... a deck with him and Kemba, Kha Regent would allow me to change up my commander when they get a little stale.
August 7, 2017 9:44 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #9
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=14090
thats super fun!
August 7, 2017 10:25 a.m.
Debating; does $110 (including shipping, but probably not tax) seem like a good price for the set? I've always aimed for as close to $25 as possible per deck when preordering commander deck sets.
August 7, 2017 10:29 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #11
Sorry was in a rush before, to elaborate on my previous post...
Hungry Lynx 1GCreature-Cat 2/2Cats you control have protection from rats.At the beginning of your endstep, target opponent creates a 1/1 Rat with Deathtouch.Whenever a Rat dies, put a +1/+1 counter on each cat you control.
August 7, 2017 10:57 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #12
Hungry Lynx 1G
Creature-Cat 2/2
Cats you control have protection from rats.
At the beginning of your endstep, target opponent creates a 1/1 Rat with Deathtouch.
Whenever a Rat dies, put a +1/+1 counter on each cat you control.
August 7, 2017 10:58 a.m.
Well, looks like today's spoilers were a Cat-***-trophy.
...I'll shut up now.
But traverse the boundaries...gimmie.
August 7, 2017 11 a.m. Edited.
Ska4Life1989 says... #14
and some more... Sorry my formatting is bad :(
Bloodforged Battleaxe 1 mana
Equipped creature gets +2/+0
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, create a token that's a copy of 'this axe'
Equip 2
1GW Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist
Legendary Creature-Cat Warrior
First Strike
Whenever, ~ attacks, opponents cannot block with more than one creature this combat.
As long as ~ is tapped, no more than one creature can attack you each combat.
3/2
Stalking Leonin 2W
Creature-Cat Archer
When ~ enters the battlefield, secretly choose an opponent.
Reveal opponent you choose: Exile target creature that is attacking you if it is controlled by the chosen player. Activate this ability only once.
3/3
Seht's Tiger 2WW
Creature-Cat
Flash
When ~ enters the Battlefield, you gain protection from the colour of your choice until end of turn.
3/3
August 7, 2017 11:05 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #15
Seht's Tiger Reprint was kinda expected for me... LOVE NEW MIRRI
August 7, 2017 11:09 a.m.
Secretly choose an opponent? Oi. holds envelope to forehead
August 7, 2017 11:28 a.m.
Ska4Life1989 For future reference, the way I post the images is to open the image in a new tab, copy the URL, and enter it into the box opened when you click the image tag.
Stalking Leonin doesn't seem exactly stellar. It probably won't do a good job as a deterrent, seeing as though there are probably many opponents and therefore a high chance of missing. It also targets and has to remain on the battlefield. It's pretty funny against just one opponent though. "So who did you secretly name?"
Hunted Cat is my pet nickname for that lynx. It seems pretty meh. Giving your opponent more options is rarely a good thing, and the rats specifically have to die (most good white targeted removal exiles, and wraths kill your cats too). What that means is they have to choose to pump your cats themself. So you have to ally yourself with an opponent. Which is not always something you're happy to do. Still, when it's good, it's great.
The equipment is a new staple in quite a few equipment decks. Cards like Khemba care about how many they have equipped. Plus, some cards make equipping the copies to them free.
There's also some generic G/W combat stuff that's good but unimpressive, at least to me.
I suppose they're doing a single day of spoilers dedicated for each tribe? The only one left that would have me uninterested is vampires.
August 7, 2017 11:36 a.m.
Hammer of Nazahn is actually dope as shit for voltron decks.
Mirri is a buffed Silent Arbiter.
And every Sram, Senior Artificer deck runner is probably going to build around Bloodforged Axe
August 7, 2017 12:31 p.m.
Mirri is a beaut and she is going straight into my Samut deck!!!
August 7, 2017 12:47 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #22
Im excited for Mirri to helm my GW hatebears since everyone hates Gaddock Teeg!
August 7, 2017 12:52 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #23
Also Stalking Leonin seems cool but has bad memory issues. Literally one of the only cards in magic that is going to require a pen and paper.
August 7, 2017 12:55 p.m.
People better be using pen and paper for that card, or I'm going to start calling bull**** on people.
August 7, 2017 1:21 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #25
Already working on a Mirri token deck. She just plays so well with cards like Throne of the God-Pharaoh and Masako the Humorless...
August 7, 2017 1:23 p.m.
RedUndead40 well not quite the only one, I used to troll tables with Menacing Ogre all day long when it came out.
August 7, 2017 1:23 p.m.
OneItsStarted says... #27
Considering the cat deck has a voltron lean, is it possible that we might see some swords or jitte printed here?
August 7, 2017 1:36 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #28
I highly doubt it.
Wizards seems to like to keep the swords as an incentive for buying the masters series. They also keep trying to print better and more interesting equipment like the 2 spoiled so far. Unlike the Swords which are great pretty much great anywhere, the new cards are better when played in certain formats or with other specific cards.
I've been surprised before but I'm not holding my breath. I think it would adversely drive up the price of the cat deck more than the others.
August 7, 2017 1:41 p.m.
The hammer is really, really good. People played Shield of Kaldra and Darksteel Plate to protect their commanders. This is an upgrade.
The cat itself (not even going to try to write/pronounce it) is just another Godo, in better colors. It's fine, but not fantastic.
Fixed Notion Thief is kind of disappointing actually. It can't lock your opponent out and it only draws you one card.
August 7, 2017 1:52 p.m.
Pics of earlier discussed cards.
AKA "Clonesplitter".
Text is pretty obvious, apart from "when equipped creature deals combat damage, create a token copy of this card".
The flavor text is something like "once bloodshed has started, it is difficult to stop".
August 7, 2017 1:59 p.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #32
Wait... so the from clonesplotter create more tokens? That would get out of hand so so quickly...
August 7, 2017 2:06 p.m.
Agent_Fire says... #33
Well the hammer itself is not indestructible so it is better is some ways.
August 7, 2017 2:08 p.m.
Agent_Fire Eh, fair enough. In which case, it's like a really good Shielded by Faith.
Yeah, "Clonesplitter" tokens make more tokens. Like Spawnwrithe. What's more, double strike triggers the abilities twice. And the hammer could attach the token copies immediately. Pretty neat, huh? It reminds me of Yidris from last year.
August 7, 2017 2:15 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #35
DarkLaw, yeah its no Notion Thief but you are missing the best part - this card is mono white
August 7, 2017 2:22 p.m.
The axe is going to be nuts, wow. Anointed Procession and/or double strike and we have a party.
Question about the Alms collector interaction with an opponents Consecrated Sphinx. Wouldn't they create a loop ending with both players losing?
August 7, 2017 2:38 p.m.
dlamars pretty much. Essentially it's the white player saying they'll sacrifice themself to stop the blue player from playing Consecrated Sphinx
August 7, 2017 2:45 p.m.
Which made me realize the dumbest way to win in Zedruu decks. Just give two of your opponents one of each of these guys before your draw step.
August 7, 2017 2:47 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #39
Consecrated Sphinx is a "may" ability. So nobody's going to kill themselves with it.
August 7, 2017 3:09 p.m.
Daaammn... Indestructible + another form of Sigarda's Aid -- Sig's aid breaks people (not quite sig's aid but free equip is huge)
August 7, 2017 3:15 p.m.
My captain sisay cat edh deck got new toys, so did my nahari equipment deck.
August 7, 2017 3:31 p.m.
I think i'm most excited to see what's both new for vampires and which ones get reprints.
It would be nice to see reprints for Captivating Vampire, Bloodline Keeper or any of the other semi expensive vampire cards.
August 7, 2017 3:59 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #43
Do we have confirmation on what the other two deck are? Lots of people talking about vampires... I must have missed something?
August 7, 2017 4:12 p.m.
Ska4Life1989 says... #44
Delta-117 bloodline keeper won't be as they said no double sided cards, and if they lied I wish I didn't buy 5 last week haha
August 7, 2017 4:15 p.m.
Oh I seemed to have missed the mention of no double sided oh well that's too bad.
But I know someone who I can trade from for.
Yeah LittleBlueHero, the other two decks are already known to be mardu vampires and grixis wizards.
August 7, 2017 4:27 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #47
Thanks!
I must have missed that somewhere, but Mardu vamps will bleed nicely into the white vampires that are apparently on ixalan.
Wizards im least excited for though, unless they do something more creative with them other than... "we draw cards and deal damage yay!"
August 7, 2017 4:29 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #49
So here's what you do:
Play hammer + axe
Have a double striker
Get many extra combats
Cry because you can't keep track of how many axe copys you now have
(Axe makes copies that hammer auto equips to doublestriker)
August 7, 2017 5:34 p.m.
Winterblast says... #50
I almost instantly ordered that whole set when the cat spoilers arrived. I don't think the price will fall further now
K34 says... #2
Omnath likey.
August 7, 2017 7:53 a.m.