Sideboard Rant

The Blind Eternities forum

Posted on June 10, 2014, 9:17 p.m. by Zuma

Sideboards can be the deciding factor in which decks make it to the Top 8. In my opinion, sideboards should be called hateboards because that's what they do. Post-sideboard, the deck your playing is no longer the Jund you know, but a Green-Red-Black deck called "Jund Artifact Hate" running Creeping Corrosion and Ancient Grudge. Each one of these cards wrecks your deck because well, you run tons of artifacts. At my local FNM, many people will look at the meta game and create a sideboard accordingly. Some people have close to a Tier 1 deck (mainboard) but a unique sideboard with hate for all the local metagame decks. It's no fun playing somebody with my deck where all they change there deck to hate on mine. I hope other people have this problem as well and agree with me. Sideboard=No fun

Arvail says... #2

June 10, 2014 9:25 p.m.

Servo_Token says... #3

Don't play affinity? It's one of the easiest decks to hate on.

Or if you could figure out how to sideboard into UWR control...

June 10, 2014 9:29 p.m.

gnarlicide says... #4

I run Shatterstorm , ancient grudge and two Rakdos Charm against affinity. Talk about some serious hate, am I right?

Because, Jund.

June 10, 2014 9:37 p.m.

cklise says... #5

Sideboards are quite necessary. Decks would become very unusual otherwise, I think. It would become an insanely big guessing game. Should I run any creature kill in my deck? It'll just be a dead draw if I'm up against a nearly creature-less control deck. If I'm control deck, should I run counters for non-creature spells? Maybe they're running an all-creature deck. Sideboards give decks a fighting chance in unfavorable matchups.

June 10, 2014 9:42 p.m.

TehCoopeh says... #6

Have you tried sideboarding in some counterspells?

June 10, 2014 10:04 p.m.

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June 10, 2014 10:12 p.m.

Smash to Smithereens ... Yep.

Uh, is the OP for real?

June 10, 2014 11:26 p.m.

TurboFagoot says... #9

You build your sideboard to counteract their hate, you doughnut.

June 10, 2014 11:30 p.m.

Caligula says... #10

June 10, 2014 11:30 p.m.

gnarlicide says... #11

Well, I hate to show everyone how old I am here....

But back in the day, we didn't play magic with sideboards. If you lost, it's because you didn't make a good deck. Plain and simple. I quit playing (the first time) when stronghold released.

Flash forward to somewhere near 2005. Ravnica is out and I came back into the game. I show up to my first tournament, and I call a judge because I saw some dude swapping cards between games. I was like, " when the fuck was that legal". My friend had to talk to me about side boarding. My mind was blown.

To me, it was like... "You mean, if I lose I can switch out stuff that sucks for stuff that would destroy them?" It was nuts.

Mind you, there was also a time where MTG tourneys were best out of 3, but there was no Swiss. Single elimination. Imagine with me, how frustrating it was to brew a deck for weeks (bi weekly tournaments were the only way). Save my lunch money, take a bus across Phoenix metro area, pay the owner five bucks.... Aaaaaaaand get wrecked and scrub out in the first round. Not cool.

This was a time when net decking was considered a sin. And net decker got made fun of and picked on.

Ah, the glory days.

We also walked to our tournaments both ways in the snow. Uphill. Barefoot.

Now I feel old. Thanks.

June 10, 2014 11:42 p.m.

Caligula says... #12

You do make a great point gnarlicide

Depends how dickish your meta is I guess.

June 10, 2014 11:44 p.m.

gnarlicide says... #13

The point is... It could be a lot worse.

Any old schoolers out there?

CAN I GET A WITNESS?

June 10, 2014 11:44 p.m.

gufymike says... #14

As an old schooler, sideboards have been legal since day 1.. I can find deck lists from 1996 with sb. I never had a real interest in competitive play back in96/97, but the few tournamnets I knew of allowed sideboards... per the old rules.

But I can vouch for the walking uphill in snow for 10 miles barefoot!

+1 to InconspicuousPotato

June 10, 2014 11:59 p.m.

TheKatalyst says... #15

@Gnarlicide Eternal Witness ? That'll set you back two bucks.

June 11, 2014 12:09 a.m.

Spootyone says... #16

gnarlicide: +1 elder respect gained from me.

June 11, 2014 1:02 a.m.

xlaleclx says... #17

Is this a joke? This is actually the worst post ever lol

June 11, 2014 1:49 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #18

Magic players are so dumb sometimes. The amount of shit in the forums these days is unbelievable.

June 11, 2014 8:20 a.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #19

June 11, 2014 9:11 a.m.

umlweatherman says... #20

+1 gnarlicide - I remember those days :) (note I never played in any FNM or tourney until Eldrazi). We just played with 60 cards, plain and simple.

Even now my casual playgroup really doesn't use sideboards because it is pretty much hate on X deck. So I run hate (Leyline of Sanctity ) mainboard as not to be accused of hating their burn/discard decks.


That said. Sideboards are key in tournaments and I am not against them in any means. Why the hell would I run Grafdigger's Cage mainboard?

June 11, 2014 9:34 a.m.

erabel says... #21

TurboFagoot kinda said it the clearest, if not the best. You're being a doughnut. If you play game 1, then game 2 you neither sideboard against their deck nor sideboard against their hate, and lose the next two games, that's on you.

June 11, 2014 10:34 a.m.

mathimus55 says... #22

I'll show my age here too: I remember when a new set came out we just played with the 75 card booster boxes and that was our tournament deck. My skills were at a minimum when I look back a remember playing Lumbering Satyr . And didn't know why I lost! And then if you didn't live by Scrye magazine you were a hoser

June 11, 2014 11:46 a.m.

I also have a few Epochalyptik quotes:

Epochalyptik says...

"This thread makes me sad."

And

Epochalyptik says...

"I'll take this opportunity to remind people that I don't like seeing the forums smeared with dumb shit."

June 11, 2014 7:18 p.m.

kmcree says... #24

Lol at being a doughnut. That has to go on a quote wall somewhere.

I totally remember playing with the 75 card booster boxes, still have about 6 of em that hold old ass shitty decks. Fun times. I only really started playing competitively with Gatecrash, so I can't really speak about older tournament rules, but I started playing during Onslaught, and back then nobody had sideboards. You just knew what your friends were playing, and tried to design your deck so you wouldn't immediately get crushed by theirs.

June 11, 2014 7:26 p.m.

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