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cyclinggamer says... #1

Lots of people say great things about him. My Wayward Servant does plenty of work for me. I'm sure it has a place at the table, just not really in my deck. It won't be bad to put him in though.

July 16, 2017 5:52 p.m.

SirChris39 says... #2

What about Unraveling Mummy. For B/W zombie deck or Esper zombie deck

July 16, 2017 2:54 p.m.

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I and no one local caught the mana for color aspect of Crypt of the Eternals. I need to "RTFC" better. Bontu's Last Reckoning helped in the game I edged out temur energy. Board wipes and hand hate like Lay Bare the Heart to tear out dangerous cards?

July 23, 2017 6:13 p.m.

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#2

New Perspectives is your friend, especially if you have a full hand. Shadow of the Grave for when you empty your library and want to do it again for either terrible life loss for your opponent, while you gain that same life, or a huge fleet of drakes for direct damage.

July 22, 2017 8:08 p.m.

I'm still working the kinks out.

This version is supposed to work well against creature heavy decks, and still is pretty mean for controlling types.

Today, for Hour of Devastation showdown, I went 1-1-1. Lost 0-2 to temur energy, pulled out my more refined bw zombie deck, still lost, but zombies made a fight of it.

Round two, temur energy again, went 1-1-1, first game I was crushed by energy gain, sluggish slow creatures cycling in late, struggling to get land. Game two I side boarded in hand hate and board wipes, changing out Fatal Push and one each of my large spells. Abandoned Sarcophagus did wonderful work letting me cast cards from my graveyard to my opponent's frustration. Traded blows, and eventually beat him to the kill. Game three, we just ran out of time (to be honest, he was likely going to win if we'd time to finish).

Round three, played a newb running green monsters. Game one, she was mana screwed, and I ran over her, t6 win. Game two, she got mana, but my deck did exactly as designed. I say she was a newb because I asked how many lands she had in her deck, she was about 6 lands too few.

Temur energy needs creature removal, and fatal push swings too low to hit most. Kefnet's Last Word, perhaps?

July 22, 2017 7:25 p.m.

So, this starts slow. As most experienced MTG deck builders will tell you, this deck has too high of a mana curve. FNM tweaked it a bit from a suggestion playing against another standard work in progress deck.

Went 1-3. Lost to spirit tribal 0-2, didn't even scratch it playing a practice 3rd game. Next played red burn/agro, went 1-2, taking him down only when he mulliganed down to 4 cards.

Beat a Bolas the deceiver deck 2-1. Of note, this deck can cycle on two lands, but only just, edging out the non-cycle deck by going through cards and getting to lands and useful small spells faster.

Lost the final round to temur energy, 1-2.

Vile Manifestation grows very quickly, and is a bigger threat than I initially realized. I've added creature removal in Fatal Push and Bontu's Last Reckoning, also trading out all the Shadow of the Grave, a Curator of Mysteries, a Archfiend of Ifnir, and New Perspectives for the Wasteland Scorpion and the Nimble Obstructionist. Razaketh's Rite seems nearly useless, as when I'm casting it, I need to be casting the archfiend instead, or some other jankiness.

So, will update the card list in the deck and post how effective the updates are for HOU showdown.

July 22, 2017 2:02 p.m.

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#5

Archfiend of Ifnir looks like he is just sitting there as a big 5/4 flier instead of a cycling and discard beast that he is. You could replace him with more land specific to your deck needs. I'd look to graveyard protection cards like Perpetual Timepiece, sms have the archfiend come in SB with a package of cycling specific spells, to replace your dessert hate of The Gitrog Monster and Ramunap Excavator package.

Abandoned Sarcophagus works great to cast cycled spells from your graveyard.

July 20, 2017 4:29 p.m.

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#6

Can you take a look at this deck -1/-1 counter with cycling for me? Looking to make my opponent's army shrink to manageable or zero toughness and strength, swing through for the win with Archfiend of Ifnir. Kinda mirroring the old Doomwake Giant deck from theros block.

I'm wondering if there is a fatal flaw I'm not considering, and why not many others are trying to run it.

July 20, 2017 10:59 a.m.

Said on Mill You 'till ......

#7

I don't hear many good things about Censor, nor have I had much luck using it, it is so easy to work around paying 1 mana to play whatever spell. Just seems like almost anything you do is better than that card. Maybe put in As Foretold just to make your opponents hate you more as you counter and control them for free?

July 20, 2017 10:31 a.m.

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#8

Archfiend of Ifnir would go nicely in this deck. All the discards to fuel -1/-1 counters for all your friends' creatures. All while your vampires are getting +1/+1 counters - double trouble!

July 19, 2017 11:12 p.m.

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#9

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July 19, 2017 11:09 p.m.

Nest of Scarabs slows down this deck. This deck wants to cycle to the win con of Archfiend of Ifnir, then continue to cycle through to shrink enemies down to manageable size, killing any and all weenies by strangulation to -1/-1 counters. Cast spells from hand and cycle cards into graveyard, then cast them from the graveyard when Abandoned Sarcophagus hits the board. Perpetual Timepiece, Abandoned Sarcophagus, and Shadow of the Grave to protect against graveyard haters out there, which there surely will be, along with all the super fast mill decks.

Staple of this deck is graveyard, archfiend of ifnir, and abandoned sarcophagus, but all the others are fun threats to throw in someone's face.

Quick fact: Torment of Hailfire works much better AFTER cycling and killing off the opponent's creature board state. It's so fun to play though, it usually burns a mana hole in my hand so that I play it first. I imagine it being much more fun to play after cycling 3-4 -1/-1 counters on all opponent's creatures.

July 19, 2017 11:05 p.m.

For control, look at the SCG Open in Cincinnati where Michael Hamilton won the tournament with a 4 x color control deck, with 1 to 2 of each spell except for 3 x Supreme Will, 4 x Glimmer of Genius, and in the SB 3 x Spell Quellers and 3 x Glorybringers. Pretty interesting run-down on you-tube talking about it.

At first blush it looks like a rainbow of one offs better suited to commander, but Hamilton drove it to win overall, with answers for just about everything.

July 19, 2017 12:51 p.m.

Smileykid1, take a look at this deck. This is the one I told you about.

Two defenses against mill: Abandoned Sarcophagus and Perpetual Timepiece, creature defense of Inverter of Truth, but there's an awful lot of graveyard hate that could kill me with Inverter of Truth: there's several ways to exile the graveyard that would leave me with nothing.

I'm thinking of building a mill deck just to see what the effects would be. I think it might work week one of hour of devastation, but then everyone will look to build more efficient decks or decks with mill protection.

July 18, 2017 11:11 p.m.

With all the Ramunap Excavators given out for release weekend as the promo card, I thought it might dip a bit in price.

July 18, 2017 1:09 p.m.

Going to look at Perpetual Timepiece as a big get lost to local players who are looking to go big with mill strategies. Keep it in SB so if they get to Fraying Sanity + Startled Awake + Ipnu Rivulet + Compelling Argument, which becomes a quickly unsustainable x 2 at least (13+4+5) 44 in a turn or two, let alone if there are 2x Fraying Sanitys on the board.

Mill might be a deck that only comes in briefly until the answers hit the meta and overwhelm it.

So for now, 4 xPerpetual Timepiece and 2 x Inverter of Truth will be SB for me.

July 17, 2017 9:27 p.m.

You might look for replaying lands with SBing Ramunap Excavator. So, your cycling / discard outlet is your cycling lands and Merciless Javelineer, but you are sacking your deserts to do things to your opponents. Think about Dunes of the Dead, which, when sacked grant you a 2/2 zombie, while you're sacking it.

Replace my earlier suggestion of putting in the Abandoned Sarcophagus with Ramunap Excavator. Why? Because you're sacking lands and you can continuously do so, all while keeping your other threats going to your opponent's face.

July 17, 2017 9:12 p.m.

CpT_DiSNeYLaND, thank you for naming those cards for me. I found Commit / Memory and Inverter of Truth for mass-returning of graveyards to libraries. I suppose scavenger grounds really helps against the new (again) cycling. Too many things like zombies, white weenies, escavators and cycling that just needs Scavenger Grounds. Nice to know my idea of a cycling deck has a fatal flaw.

Thank you for the response.

I know at least two of the better local store goers are openly talking about some version of this type of deck.

July 17, 2017 8:59 p.m.

I think a lot of people are going to be using something similar to this. I've heard the talk around the limited tables that this will become a major staple of standard. Just means I'll have to race harder and have some Elixir of Life ability up my sleeve.

July 17, 2017 5:46 p.m.

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#18

prestovenger, that might be worth splashing blue into an otherwise WB zombie deck. The Scarab God's an expensive card though.

I like the idea, but then I have to fix the mana base for my own BW zombie deck, but this deck The Scarab God would fit perfectly though.

Good suggestion!

July 17, 2017 2:22 p.m.

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#19

Lots of people say great things about him. My Wayward Servant does plenty of work for me. I'm sure it has a place at the table, just not really in my deck. It won't be bad to put him in though.

July 16, 2017 5:52 p.m.

Said on BW Zombies w/ ......

#20

Death's Majesty is pretty synergistic. I just haven't gotten any yet. Both those Liliana's are in my decklist on MTG Duels.

Thank you for the suggestion, Chris3779.

July 14, 2017 4:26 p.m.

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