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I like to brew standard decks that are on a budget. By brewing budget, I can't just use good stuff, and need to look for synergies in the cheap cards, and that is what's fun. Also, for no specific reason, I like Orzhov, and always start with that base, but will add other colors.

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I like the deck.

Surprised not to see Expedition Envoy. Gives you something to do on turn one and is a cheap ally trigger.

Kambal, Consul of Allocation can do a lot of work against certain decks, but not an ally.

May 26, 2017 12:37 p.m.

Thanks Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor. I have considered Hidden Stockpile. I worry that it just doesn't do enough and is too slow. In the perfect situation, it will help us grind through a long creature based back and forth, but we do alright in that match anyway. When we are trying to beat control or aggro, it just does too little. Just my thoughts.

I really like Bontu the Glorified and Zulaport Cutthroat in an aristocrats deck. Fun to play, but they need lots of creatures to sac. MTG Goldfish just posted a version a few days ago as an example. The deck benefits from token generators like Doomed Dissenter or Sacred Cat. We just don't have room for all that in this deck.

Archangel Avacyn  Flip would be great in this deck. She is not included for budget reasons. Same for Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet.

Forsake the Worldly is great in my mainboard, but entirely because cycle gets it out when its not needed. The meta has enough targets that are disrupted by this to make it useful. I have found it helpful very often, and am kinda surprised I don't see it more. Cycle is really really good.

Thanks for the suggestions!

May 18, 2017 10:19 a.m.

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Hi all, I've been using tapped out for some time, but never figured out this simple thing.

If I search, limiting to 1 card filtered, it works. However, if I include 2 or more cards in the serch field, it does not. For example, if I want to search for decks similar to mine, with Odric, Yahenni, and Fumigate, then I get zero results.

Help.

May 13, 2017 1:18 p.m.

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I've been trying to make something similar. How about Thraben Inspector as an early stall and "free" creature, card wise. Loam Dryad can give you some ramp as well. Renegade Rallier has good value if you can guarantee revolt. Bone Picker is good value. Smothering Abomination looks cool, but doesn't quite work that well. Just some thoughts.

May 11, 2017 3:36 a.m.

Yes, DanaBarrosReincarnate, I've been trying to fine tune the deck. Bontu the Glorified and Gonti, Lord of Luxury were both really close to making the cut, but a 4th Gifted Aetherborn is just better at getting us though the early game, and beat out Gonti for that reason. Bontu was competing too much with Yahenni for our creature fodder, and just wasn't effective enough. It also competes with Vampiric Rites.

What I've done is replace a Bone Picker with the 4th Gifted. I dropped to 1 Oketra; she is still good in very specific situations, but just isn't consistent. The Vampiric Rites is in her place.

I'm still not sure about the vampiric rites. The one-of copy just hasn't been very relevant in games to date. There are a lot of games where I would not mind drawing at as the game went on, so it is staying for now.

I've added one Grasp of Darkness and taken away a Fatal Push. It seems like a good balance. I don't really want any more low-curve creature removal; those cards are dead in a control matchup, which tends to be our hardest fight.

I've made some changes to the sideboard. Zombies have been tricky, but adding in 3 Trespasser's Curse has been really helpful, also against aggro and drake haven decks. To make room I removed 1 Anguished Unmaking, 1 Fragmentize, and 1 Planar Outburst.

I like Pick the Brain but it just doesn't slow down control enough, which is the main reason to chose it (the fact that we take a card from the opponent's hand is the benefit of this card, while the other options are guaranteed to remove all of the target cards). Instead, I split the sideboard to 2x Lost Legacy and 2x Dispossess.

May 10, 2017 10:59 p.m.

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I have a similar deck, Lunarch Wipes (AKH) - Fun Semi-budget Deck, which has given me a lot of wins. My sideboard is more toolkit (Scarab Feast, Kambal, Consul of Allocation).

I find that playing an Odric deck is hard (I've tried a lot of iterations); he is removed easily and the rest often is too slow. How has you deck worked?

I'd also consider Gonti, Lord of Luxury over Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, especially because your list doesn't have any card draw.

May 9, 2017 3:30 p.m.

Thanks, Shadow12721, I love the ideas. Actually, I already have considered both of these options. Elusive Tormentor  Flip is regrettably easy to exclude. I would LOVE to play it with Odric, but the card just doesn't do anything on it's own. Fundamentally, in order for this deck to work, I have excluded anything that isn't good by itself; Odric is too unreliable, and if his effect is not active, then a card like Elusive Tormentor  Flip does too little.

Taking this a step further brings up my latest changes. When playing the list with Oketra the True, she is often the most dead card in my hand. Her best utility is as a 4 mana token generator, which just isn't efficient. If you take away the Odric synergy, then she becomes hard to use. Because of this I looked at other options, including Bontu the Glorified. He is better in combat, because once he is activated, the opponent can't take it away (usually with Oketra, they would use removal on one of the three other creatures and shut off Oketra)).

However, his ability ends up killing off the fodder creatures that we need to drive Yahenni. Also, one other card I have considered is Vampiric Rites. For 3 mana, the card will break even on card advantage, and from that point on can repeatedly generate more card draws (2 mana to bring back a scrounger and 2 to sac it .. again and again). All of that comes at a tempo hit and I'm not sold yet. Currently I'm bouncing between Oketra, Vampiric Rites, and adding Gifted Aetherborn and/or Gonti, Lord of Luxury (have I mentioned I love putting Cartouche on a deathtouch creature?)

May 9, 2017 1:19 a.m.

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