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oops should have read the card better. i have had a gatherer search and there is nothing that exiles a permanent and returns it immediately.
May 21, 2019 3:36 a.m.
a nice thing you can do is -2 ral then do not cast another instant or sorcery at all on your turn (maybe even goad a response with a creature or enchantment spell). If your opponent casts an instant or sorcery with cmc 4 or less on your turn (such as counter your creature spell or chemisters insight in your end step) cast expansion targeting their spell. Rals ability will resolve then you target your expansion with your copy and cobo off for the win.
This probably will not work against the same opponent twice.
May 20, 2019 10:25 a.m.
unfortunatly not. in that case you -2 ral then cast double cast.
Ral's -2 doubles the double cast. the stack will look like this: Doublecast - doublecast.
when priority is past the first double cast will resolve and then the second double cast will resolve as no new spells have been cast nothing will be added to the stack.
It does mean that the next instant or sorcery you cast will be copied twice (for a total of 3 spells)
May 20, 2019 10:20 a.m.
I'll have a look at what cards to cut in abit.
I don't think there is much to target with daretti probably just use him as a kill spell every other turn (still good value) I'll look into it still though.
Cloudshift would work with isochron sceptre but i do not think they are worth putting in. generally the idea is to flicker a walker and get its loyalty counters back to you can then imediatly use it again so the creature flickers do not work so well :(
Spark double does work with aminatou but you need either oath of tefiri and chain veil as well. The loop is: 1. have aminatou, 2. play spark double targeting aminatou, 3. use 1st aminatous ability to flicker something elsethen spark double, 4. use spark double to flicker something else then aminatou, 5. repeate infinite planeswalker abilities.
May 20, 2019 4:36 a.m.
Hey like the deck but i would consider running 3-4 davriels
also Urgoros, the Empty One does not really pay off much and i cant really see Screaming Shield doing much
May 17, 2019 10:44 a.m.
I like the idea of using them but i do not play pauper commander. Saheeli, Sublime Artificer could work well and make it mainly spell slinging (using her as a young pyromancer)
May 17, 2019 8:02 a.m.
really need to know more about your deck to help but i think people have mainly answered it.
May 17, 2019 7:54 a.m.
606.5. A loyalty ability with a negative loyalty cost can’t be activated unless the permanent has at least that many loyalty counters on it.
this ruling still does stand. it means if you have a planeswalker with 4 loyalty you can't do a -5 ability. Which actually confirms you can use a -8 when you have 8 loyalty counters (as you have "at least that many loyalty counters)
306.9. If a planeswalker’s loyalty is 0, it’s put into its owner’s graveyard. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.)
and this rules states that when you have used the -8 when you have only 8 loyalty counters the planes walker will die.
But a boon for you is that you will still get the ability :)
You can do some huge things with darettis ult but only really if you had the cards in the deck already. My favourite is ulting and making 3 copies of Ugin's Nexus having to sacrifice 2-3 of them to the legend rule and somehow destroy the last for alot of extra turns but it is not really worth it in this deck. Nevinyrral's Disk could be worth adding as it is a great board whipe that does not destroy planeswalkers it can also be used with saheli as she can immediately make a copy untapped.
Im happy to help develop decks :) It stops me from building too many myself and keeping my costs down :P
May 17, 2019 6:44 a.m.
that is the ruling but not the correct interpretation. so as soon as you activate the -8 ability you put the ability on the stack, the planes walker will die immediately . However, you will still get an emblem. This leaves you with no planeswalker but the emblem. This has never been changed and has always been the case. Just like when something like walking balister dies when you remove its last counter the ability still resolves.
saheli does give you blockers but her -2 is really bad in this deck so i would cut her. daretti gives blockers can kill and is alt is okay ish in this deck. personally i would cut both and find another planeswalker or two. Ashiok i do like :)
I'm not sure i quite understand your question about nikky B and the ruinous blast. To play urza's ruinious blast you must have a planeswalker or legendary creature it then will exile all non-legendary non-land perminants, hopefully wiping everyone's boards and leaving all of your planeswalkers :) THe new bolas just ends up being able to use all loyalty abilities.
May 15, 2019 12:23 p.m.
I would personally go grull and run cards like Collision / Colossus and other pump. you could also run Dreadhorde Arcanist as another target of your pump spells. I would also not underestimate Maximize Velocity giving either creature a little pump and haste is great.
You could go both (Naya: green/red/white, Bant is white/green/blue) but you would need a lot of rare lands ect to get it to be reliable. However, some cards could be very good Integrity / Intervention would be great
May 15, 2019 12:13 p.m.
May 15, 2019 3:32 a.m.
I understand that copy mana rocks for ramp can be good but coping untill the end of turn seems a bit under-powered.
Sorry I was unclear I do not think sliver queen in Bad I just think Najeela is a better independent token creator for this deck.
(side note loving aminatou's nickname) and i suppose she is just 3 planes walker resets so not ultimate value!
The planeswalker does not need to survive to get an emblem and an emblem does not go away when the planeswalker dies. when you get an emblem the only way to get rid of it is if someone plays a card that literally says "restart the game". So with doubling season out you play Rowan Kenrith she comes in with 8 counters you ult her for her emblem she dies (but you don't care because you got her emblem!!!
Ashiok, Dream Render i keep on flip floping at the moment i love this guy. (Got trashed in a draft by it and ghost form!)
Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast I like the removal aspect of this over saheeli and the alt i think is better (permanent copies)
Ugin, the Ineffable is great similar to Vraska, Relic Seeker IMHO it has a better up but no ult. Bothe value and removal so both great (I do love that Vraska :) )
Yeah hopefully it cant prompt some ideas :). Good luck with the music creation!
May 15, 2019 3:12 a.m.
You saying I should cut Saheeli, Sublime Artificer ? Just checking to be sure.
Well I was really looking for validation, what do you copying with her?
How long would I take for me to say: I changed my mind back to Sliver Queen .
HMMM i do think this is your worst option out of the three i think najella is directly better for this deck and the hard discussion for me is between najella and the new Niv.
Unless... You'd think Venser, the Sojourner + Teferi, Timebender is good as well. Unless you want me to put Ral Zarek back in?
Ral Zarek > Teferi, Timebender and could fit i do like his interaction with chain veil. I personally do not like Venser, the Sojourner in this deck and aminato is better at resetting planeswalkers.
Finally, one other Walker in mind is Tezzeret, Artifice Master , but I dunno about such a thing. That & Rowan Kenrith is hated by all as a part of these Superfriends/Avengers type decks. Really sucks when I'm the only one to find it to be good...
Tezzeret, Artifice Master is just a value engine which is what super friends wants i suppose make tokens->card advantage->powerful ult. so he could happily go in.
Rowan Kenrith generally is not a good card, her up ability is bad her down ability is underpowered she would just be in it for her ult. I generally do not put planewalkers into decks just for their ult ability however for rowan i will make break my rule. Doubling every single planeswalker ability on an emblem is extremely powerful IMHO she also has the ability to ult herself using doubling season
Ashiok, Dream Render i think you are right to be concerned you can probably cut this (unless your meta is tuter and gy heavy)
Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast same question as saheeli what do you use him for?
Elspeth, Knight-Errant not convinced with her particularly
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner not bad but better cards could be in her place you will not use her draw much
Also what is your play groups thoughs on Side boards? as the Karn, the Great Creator with Mycosynth Lattice in the side board is very good at winning. it a 10 mana 1 card win con really (can be payed over two turns), ie play Karn down him to find Mycosnth lattice, play the lattice and now your oponants cant tap lands for mana!
And just as an entertaining point i know someone who build a WUBR artifact deck with a lot of plains walkers in it and by using Mycosynth Lattice and Bludgeon Brawl he was equipping his gideon planswealker with other planeswalkers and using it to hit people with XD (not feasible as an actual strategy but I liked it)
May 14, 2019 10:54 a.m.
Wow really nobody responded to this thread when i was on holiday! that is suprising Giving serious amounts of judement to strangers. maybe make a new thread and forum post when you make your next set of changes maybe the large amount of messages is off putting to weaker people :P
Here are my two pence on each of your questions i will reply later in the week about more cuts and wraths :)
What other Walkers from War of the Spark should be chopped?
In General i do not think WAR plansewalkers are great for super friends due to the lack of up-ticking abilities the ones you have seem a great fit though! the only ones lacking an up-tick are ashock, narset and saheeli. Ashock and narset are great FU cards to other EDH players and I believe fit nicely. Saheeli, Sublime Artificer i don't see as much of a reason behind.
I do not think you truly understand Gideon, Champion of Justice s power he exiles all other permanents including lands. It does not matter if they hate you they cant do anything :D
With the amount of fetches you currently have yes i would remove Crucible of Worlds if you were to ever put more in put it back in ( Ramunap Excavator works similarly)
I put in Sundial of the Infinite for End Step effects; allowing for stuff that should be gone EOT, to stay. Do you think this should be cut?
this does not work as well as you think as you still have a clear up stage with sundile. so yes I would remove it.
Is Chromatic Lantern really better than Prismatic Omen ? Then why do I have Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter for a huge amount of mana for every one +1/+1 Counter on a creature each (One each; no higher.)?
Its only better because it is a mana rock as well or if you are running bespoke effects like Prismatic Geoscope . either/both are good. you dont run enough creatures or counter synergy to run Jiang in my opinion.
What do you think is the better CMDR: Najeela, the Blade-Blossom , or Niv-Mizzet Reborn ? Both already seem really badass on their own.
Najela can be a win con on her own but niv is an independant draw engine , personaly for this deck i would run Niv however both work.
Flux Channeler , Evolution Sage (Combine her w/ Crucible of Worlds .), even Ignite the Beacon seem really good here; but what are your thoughts on them?
Dependons on how many tutors you want, ignite the becon is great especially at instant speed! both others are great as well as you will notmally have non creature spells or lands to play.
I didn't think Dream Halls is good here. Your thoughts on this? It seems to be a staple here in Niv-Mizzet Reborn , but what about Najeela, the Blade-Blossom ? I'd like to
yes i do not think it is great in this deck due to it super charging your opponents as well
Also, SP3CTR3_chelts, I still need some alts for Aminatou, the Fateshifter in the situation I don't have enough Blink/Flicker in play. Do you think Ashiok, Dream Render sucks as well?
I'm looking into flicker affects but your choices are not numerous. I always like to run at least one peice of GY hate in each deck so he fits but if you are short on spaces remove him.
Rowan Kenrith is da bomb doubling all planes walker affects are huge!!!! as they are activated abilities.
Ill have a look at some more wraths and cards to cut soon but i am running out of time :)
May 14, 2019 8:16 a.m.
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