Neunviertel Deckling

Just a dude who likes to brew and play competitive EDH decks. Part of the Laboratory Maniacs: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo41YdkXVTp4dTXvhduaeYw

Also known as Lobster on Discord and /u/SirOzzsome or /u/LobsterEDH on Reddit.

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Said on Chain Veil Teferi...

#1

If you really wanted to get one of the two, I'd say go for Tabernacle first. It's a card you're gonna want in many different competitive EDH decks, and one of our best pieces of creature hate. And yeah, you're spot on about Expedition Map - one piece of Tech I'm currently considering is Portcullis for more creature hate, but Engulf the Shore is also decent. Take that one if lots of creatures is your problem, and Shackles if you only need to deal with some key creatures.

March 21, 2017 10:36 a.m.

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#2

Padeem is a card I might consider running if I basically had to play Archenemy every game and people started packing a ton of artifact removal just for me. But in most competitive Metas, where decks are supposed to be on somewhat equal footing, our artifacts won't be interacted with enough to require giving them Hexproof. Another issue with Padeem is that the card draw he provides is incremental advantage, which is not something Teferi decks traditionally use. The only two pieces of incremental advantage we run are Sensei's Divining Top and JVP, with the latter also providing a lot of immediate advantage once he flips. Incremental advantages take several turns to really take effect, and that's not something we can afford to invest in, even if we drop him, say, Turn 2. Four Mana is a fairly big jump up from 3 Mana, which means that all of our spells that cost 4 Mana (or more) need to either provide us with a massive immediate advantage (think Memory Jar, Time Spiral) or win the game for us (Chain Veil, Tezzeret to tutor Chain Veil). Padeem does neither of those, unfortunately.

Dimensional Infiltrator is interesting, and I appreciate the creativity that goes into that choice. However, there are two reasons why we don't need it:

  1. Diversifying win conditions is not something that Teferi needs to do.
  2. Having Infiltrator as a wincon opens up a whole avenue of interaction for our opponents that they previously had no access to: creature removal. As stated in the Primer, creature removal is basically useless against us, but with Dimensional Infiltrator as a win condition, it suddenly becomes very good.
March 21, 2017 9:44 a.m.

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#3

Very good question, actually - we had that come up on the Teferi Discord a couple of days ago. There are two different ways, depending on whether you have access to the Chain Veil combo or not (I'll also talk to neo about including that explanation in the Primer somewhere):

  1. With Chain Veil: You draw your whole deck, cast Stroke of Genius for at least x + 1, where x is the number of cards in their library, on one opponent to mill them out. Stroke hits the graveyard. Now, you cast Timetwister to shuffle it back into your library. After that, you +1 Teferi until you find Stroke again/have your whole deck in your hand, which lets you cast it again to mill our your second opponent. For your third opponent, you can flash it back with Snapcaster Mage to mill them out as well. If you somehow have more than three opponents, you can also use Time Spiral to get it back once, or you can flash back Timetwister with Snapcaster/JVP to shuffle it back once more.

  2. Without Chain Veil: The way you do it is the same, but instead of using Teferi to draw your whole deck, you repeatedly use Sensei's Divining Top + Rings of Brighthearth to copy the Sensei's Divining Top draw. This lets you draw one card + Top itself, which means that you can replay top and keep drawing cards if you have infinite colourless Mana.

March 18, 2017 12:42 p.m.

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#4

Thanks! I hope you'll have a great time with it.

March 17, 2017 10:37 a.m.

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#5

:ok_hand:

March 13, 2017 4:21 p.m.

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#6

I might pick it back up at some point, but I'm not planning to do so in the foreseeable future. With all the lists I'm playing for the Laboratory Maniacs, I already have too many lists I need to maintain. If I were to pick it up again, I'd definitely make it fully competitive.

March 13, 2017 4:01 p.m.

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#7

Hey, to be completely honest, I have not been maintaining this list at all, so Phantasmal Image is probably a good addition. The list is also not full-powered in some ways since it was intentionally made to be not-quite-competitive. With some changes and further tuning, this could probably play decently well in a competitive Pod. Feel free to take any sort of inspiration from it for your personal list.

March 13, 2017 3:17 p.m.

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#8

Yup, Tinker is far better than Reshape, and Reshape is easily our worst artifact Tutor, but alas, Tinker is banned. If it were legal however, I'd probably still run Reshape to have even more redundancy.

March 9, 2017 9:37 a.m.

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#9

If you look at the Update log for this deck, Tolaria West was indeed part of it at some point. My stance on it is that paying 1UU at Sorcery speed is just straight-up not worth it with this deck being quite bottlenecked in regards to coloured Mana.

March 8, 2017 9:27 p.m.

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#10

Since for some reason, links don't seem to work for me on TappedOut, here's the link in plain text form: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo41YdkXVTp4dTXvhduaeYw

March 8, 2017 9:25 a.m.

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#11

Not necessarily game reports, but if you head over to the , you can find me playing Teferi in a couple of games.

Pithing Needle is a decent card, but Grafdigger's Cage doesn't just hose Reanimator Decks. It also works wonders against Storm, Doomsday, Yisan, Karador, and Birthing Pod type Decks in general. If none of the people in your Meta are playing these types of decks, then sure - feel free to cut Grafdigger's Cage.

March 8, 2017 9:24 a.m.

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#12

Hey, that's a good obversation. While Overburden is very good at messing with decks like Karador, it struggles hard against Gaea's Cradle, which is definitely something to keep in mind when adjusting this deck to your local meta. If a lot of the creature-based decks you play against tend to get Cradle early quite consistently, you could consider swapping it out for a different piece of creature hate.

March 6, 2017 10:05 p.m.

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