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Idk where I could fit Elspeth, because if I ramp to hit doubling season turn 3 or 4, the next turn I almost always go off and draw everything I need. I also think it wouldnt be the best to run arbor elf because its only good if I get a forest and a utopia sprawl turn in starting hand, I could drop all sakura tribe elders and see which runs smoother, which would also help budget. I could run arbor elf if i run another land enchantment then like Fertile Ground. But which is better do you guys think?
November 15, 2018 3:23 p.m.
Ill try out utopia sprawl and sylvan caryatid. The rest are way too much for this budget. I can drop the Opts and maybe the verdicts or even the azorius charms. I feel like if I do the Ajanis, Elspeth and garruk, than there is no point in running second sun. But I could maybe go to 3 of Jace, the living guildpact, and add 4 of Jace, Memory Adept. Ill be running a total of 11 planeswalkers and then I can bump up to 4 doubling seasons. I just need to find the balance of ramp and of removal with the 15 predetermined cards for the streamlined doubling season ramp strategy into second sun or just lockdown of the game.
November 15, 2018 2:25 p.m.
another thought, is it worth bumping the jace up to 3 or even 4? Im almost definitely going for a more doubling season strategy than U/W control with minor ramp, and doing this will make the jace that much stronger, especially when im doing the turn 3 doubling, turn 4 tamiyo ult into jace ulti.
November 15, 2018 12:14 a.m.
This is definitely a deck made to play with friends casually, but i wouldnt mind the option to go to my LGS and participate in fnm, which may be why my additions are so wishywashy. i dont want a super tryhard deck against friends, but with the ability to go to fnm and at least have a chance without insta-losing just because i cant do anything turn 4/5 which is why i went for the control aspect, but the ramp into doubling season and tamiyo is alot more fun and if i do pull that off at fnm, it would be alot more fun. I feel like i would have to drop alot of the U/W control feel to make the doubling season a streamline part of the deck so i can turn 4 and 5 pop off with it and completely control the game. Maybe if i went to 4 tamiyos and 4 doubling seasons and made alot more ramp, by sideboarding supreme verdict and other removal i have to fit it, but not all obviously. I honestly feel like the Courser of Kruphix is to slow as well, even if it helps a consistent ramp. If there is a cheap and faster alternative i can play, please recommend anything that comes to mind. I can definitely bump up to 4 birds of paradise and 4 sakura-tribe elders as well. And i think omniscience is too casual even for friendly games, you guys are right about making tamiyo more frequent being better.
November 15, 2018 12:10 a.m.
Should i consider Omniscience instead of doubling season? it would have the same effect as doubling season and tamiyo ulti but for one turn, which is still manageable and easier to pull off with only 2 copies
November 14, 2018 7:32 p.m.
If i took out doubling season i could include something like Alhammarret's Archive so i dont have to focus on the planes walkers to set up my combo, just have to delay more and i already have one so that helps with budget compared to 2 doubling seasons that i need to buy.
November 14, 2018 7:14 p.m.
I cant really fit in oust / condemn in the deck, but i did put it to 4 path to exiles by dropping a think twice. Search for Azcanta would be perfect for this deck, but i dont have the budget to get that, so sadly ill have to keep it out for now until i can maybe upgrade even more in the future. But the Jace and Contingency plan are cards i already have, so they help with budget, and i feel like the whole feel of the deck isnt the same without them, i know i could always drop contingency plan for a way better card like Opt, which i probably will. But honestly, i want this deck to be a control till i can "play Approach as soon as possible", it has a fun active feel compared to most control decks which i like
November 13, 2018 8:03 p.m.
The Blue/White control with green ramp looks really good, thanks for the suggestion of doubling season, is there any other changes you think I should do or some I did that arent good or could be better, please let me know.
November 12, 2018 1:56 p.m.
Also I think keeping at least 1 emrakul will be ok(maybe even helpful since second sun is easily countered) but I see you're guys point on how he doesnt fit as well as I originally thought, what could I add over him, maybe some wraths? And when I remove emrakul, the jace will be alot weaker(though he is already pretty weak) so should I keep 2 of him if I add doubling season, or should I switch him for a better jace, even if I like living guildpacts ulti because is gives me chances to get second sun back if it goes to graveyard one way or another. And I can add more second suns where emrakul is
November 12, 2018 12:14 p.m.
I know I should drop exultant cultist, primal druid, and wretched gryff. But idk specifically what to switch out, I know I need to run sakura tribe elder, so maybe switch that and primal druid to make my ramp and mana fix that much easier to play. But whats better for card draw that also doesnt feel dead once I ult tamiyo like exultant cultist.
November 12, 2018 11:37 a.m.
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