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Doombeard1984, great job at the tourny! Every win is a win for all of us Sliver players. Turns out I was wrong about Herald's Horn, it's pricier than I thought. It's still pretty good though. I look forward to how your deck shapes. I hope my thoughts were of some use to you.
October 13, 2018 3:02 p.m.
Hmm...so this is a pet peeve of mine so take it worth a grain of salt but -always make your deck description as detailed as possible. As I'm looking at your deck and what you wrote here my only guess is that your game plan is to swing wide, and swing often. However, your deck doesn't seem to exactly have alot of focus to that end. You include some slivers with parasitic mechanics and/or (in my opinion) don't function well when there is only a "one of":
These Slivers are bad inclusions in an EDH deck because their abilities don't have much direct interaction with the other creatures in your deck. Additionally, when there is only one copy of them out on the battlefield their presence doesn't really make much of an impact - case in point Frenzy Sliver. With only one in play, your Slivers will only deal +1/+0 if they get through. That's it. If you had 4, that changes dramatically to +4/+0 - forcing the opponent to always block if possible. Can you honestly say that there is a situation where you would want to tutor for one of the previously mentioned creatures? Again, this is all my own opinion - but I would cut these Slivers for additional spells or permanents that could support you, but more on that later.
The inclusion of non-slivers is a bad choice given your commander. Overlord is designed to enable you to tutor for whatever answer you need. If that answer isn't a Sliver and is a creature - then what's the point of having Overlord as your commander? Speaking of lack of inclusions - why not have Amoeboid Changeling? It's a Sliver, and it interacts directly with Overlord's 2nd ability enabling you to steal enemy commanders. That's more of a control oriented play, but is a Overlord staple.
I'm starting to think that maybe you should swap out commanders for ether Sliver Hivelord or Sliver Legion. Your deck, as it is currently built seems to support a more aggro playstyle - which is completely viable within Slivers. Including the previously mentioned, I would cut the following cards:
- Reflex Sliver - This is an exceptionally horrible card. Never use this. Ever.
- Spitting Sliver - This is also an awful card.
- Hunter Sliver - This card is only relevant if you have both Striking/Bonescythe Sliver + Venom Sliver OR Sliver Legion on the board.
- Belligerent Sliver - Menace is okay, but the more CMC efficient version is Two-Headed Sliver. Again in my opinion, this is only relevant with Striking/Bonescythe Sliver + Venom Sliver OR Sliver Legion on the board.
Now, what cards do I think you could use?:
- Aphetto Dredging - Another possible (and budget!) option for recursion.
- Shared Animosity - Feels like more of a "win more" card, but it's a one sided aggro Coat of Arms. Worth trying in my book
- Door of Destinies - In tribal, an absolute beast of a card. Definitely worth trying out.
- Herald's Horn - a cheaper Urza's Incubator that lets you Scry. A great include, but if you also have a Urza's Incubator, then why not both?
- Synapse Sliver - if you're going to be attacking alot, why not try and get some cards out of it?
- Blur Sliver - infinitely better than Reflex Sliver. Why would you not choose this over that?
- Magma Sliver - A Sliver that compliments a more aggressive play style. Great for getting past pesky Propagandas and Ghostly Prisons.
- Armageddon - this is only of use to you when you have a "Soft Lock" on the board in the form of Gemhide Sliver and say - Sliver Hivelord + Crystalline Sliver. Losing lands would be a minor setback for you - a major one for your opponents.
- Diabolic Tutor - it's a budget Demonic Tutor. What else can I say?
- Enlightened Tutor - a bit on the pricey side, but having more tutor options is never wrong.
- Triumph of the Hordes - an alternate wincon for a deck that likes to swing wide. Worth including if you can afford it.
- Horned Sliver - Trample. For a deck that wants to swing wide, sometimes you just need trample.
Sorry to write you a whole book lol, but those were my thoughts. Please let me know what you think and when your tournament is. I look forward to your response! Also, here's a +1 for you!
October 13, 2018 12:34 p.m.
Doombeard1984, sorry for the late reply - I will happily take a look at your deck and give my two cents. See you on your deck page!
October 13, 2018 11:35 a.m.
After reading your post I thought "This deck can't have this bad of a curve" but then when I finally got here my thoughts went to:
One suggestion is that in keeping with the silly nature of this deck, maybe an alternate wincon can come in the form of Helix Pinnacle? To accompany that, you could include Omnath, Locus of Mana? I know he's not a one drop, but you do technically have non-one drop creatures in the deck. What're your thoughts?
October 8, 2018 2:21 p.m.
SurpriZe, thanks for the comment and +1. I'm always grateful for every bit of interest others have in my decklist/page. In regards to this deck being able to "lock" the boardstate...I'd consider it to be something of a soft lock. A well played/timed Merciless Eviction could put me back to square one- Slivers are the deck's greatest strength, and weakness. In regards to running land destruction, there's something of an unspoken gentleman's agreement in my playgroup - no mass land destruction. However, you have piqued my interest with those suggestions. I'd probably swap in an Armageddon for Swan Song. With Gemhide Sliver in play, mass land destruction would be a minor setback for me, but a major one for my opponents.
You definitely got some gears turning. Thanks again for the suggestion.
October 4, 2018 7:23 p.m.
Arcean_Novalogic thanks for the post. One thing I didn't know was that Farseek has a gorgeous looking promo. That alone was enough to give me pause lol, however you were right in your assessment. The slower grab could mean life or death in my meta. Being able to play a T2 Sol Ring, Mystic Remora, Mirri's Guile or have a handy for a potential Swan Song is just too much value to pass up. Thank you again for bringing Farseek to my attention again though, if anything I might just want to get that sweet sweet promo for the collection.
September 30, 2018 8:30 p.m.
_Delta_, that's quite the haul! Unfortunately, I won't be seeing any new cards from Guilds as my wife didn't want me to go to the midnight pre-release. I mean, she did get me the deckbox so i'm kinda obligated right? lol. I'll try and do 2 headed giant sunday, but i'm not liking my odds. Additionally, a friend of mine was wanting to do a case between six of us - 1 box per person. That'd likely run me around $90. I'm on the fence about it, as i'd just prefer to split a regular box. Oh well.
And that blows about the Battlebond pack. I had a similar experience with an Iconic Masters pack- when I opened it I saw the glint of a Foil blue card at the back of the pack. My friend told me to slow roll it, go through each card before it to build up the anticipation. Turns out it was just a foil Windfall. I was so let down. Ah, the joys of cracking packs.
September 30, 2018 2:31 a.m.
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