Kingleil Mana Engineer
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PuddinWing This deck dies to aggro big time. It needs time to build up mana, and it needs time to build up a reactionary base. In this meta, with creatures and other problems time is hard fought to get. You will go low on life against mono red, and against Rakdos, you may outright die. I won't sugarcoat it. It needs some way to build a defensive measure pretty badly, so I've opted for maximum control levels.
November 5, 2018 3:04 p.m.
PuddinWing Yeah, and it doesn't belong here in this deck I've decided. It just isn't potent enough to keep around. Its too long form as well, and the deal is that there were other cards that made a bigger benefit for the four slots. Namely, four Ionize which just solve way too many problems with a far easier delivery mechanism: "No" namely.
November 1, 2018 11:24 p.m.
randomguyguy You beat Teferi with a single copy of Unmoored Ego or Vraska's Contempt. I don't think this discard is weak against control, not with Duress in the sideboard. I can tell you that in some ways Grixis is weaker than a Jeskai deck until you go to the board, but not all. At which point you board in your threat management. Blood Operative is bad. Again, you'll just Unmoored Ego the Experimental Frenzy or out right counter it, or force it to be discarded with Duress in a sideboard. You have to know the meta to handle it. I look at the combo with Fight with Fire and Expansion / Explosion as icing, not the real deal closer. Boarding that combo out is entirely possible if playing into counters. As far as graveyard hate, I do agree its a bit light in that regard, and maybe a Sentinel Totem in the board is handy. I am open to Mnemonic Betrayal as well. I think that could be right on the money, but so many will argue its a horrible card. I don't think it is...but at the same time the right match up could make this amazing. How to be resolved Experimental Frenzy is Dream Eater or River's Rebuke into Duress / Unmoored Ego / Sinister Sabotage / Disinformation Campaign. Costly in all regards. Thank you for the input though. I'm gonna take your suggestions up though.
October 30, 2018 11:34 a.m.
I agree. It ends up being a situation where I see what a sexy combo it is, and I just can't wait for the next expansion bc there'll be so much, much, much, more Dimir will be able to do at that point. We'll see Azorious flavored control spells popping up, and some might even be Orzhov ones too. Of those two schools we'll see some monoflavored potential.
October 30, 2018 12:21 a.m.
I like the trick with Dimir Spybug, but I think that makes the deck a combo deck if we start reaching into the bag to combo with Lazav that deep. My only concern is removal of course heh.
October 29, 2018 11:11 p.m.
xhuggels and vortexgrey I kind of agree Blood Operative is just not working out really. I was looking for a lifelink creature, but his health pool is bad, and he's just not living long enough to justify the cost of a slot. He dies, and yeah, the pay 3 life bit sucks. So I'm agreeing and saying that Lazav, the Multifarious should be brought on board, OR Connive / Concoct. That's all I can do for now.
October 27, 2018 7:18 p.m.
Malikin No, six planeswalkers isn't the issue really, its the lack of control that is the problem. I needed more so I swapped up Karn and Contempts. Karn is very handy, and very good. Vivien kinda is the same bit though and more definitive. Karn fetches hate cards though; Vivien does not really. So its something someone else can debate. I'm picking to main deck Vivien though bc of the prevalence of control and flyers. She gets at enchantments, which are good to nuke down.
October 27, 2018 7:12 p.m.
October 26, 2018 12:28 a.m.
Hexaflexagon Surveil is a key component to this deck, and it dies to literally all forms of control magic and counterspells. It will be killed. It will NOT be let to live. You do want them in your opening hand, at least one sometimes. They are a four of b/c of their vulnerable to kill-spells nature. I see your point though, and three could be done with though. Adding another Nightveil Predator for one would be an option, that'd be the only one I would do honestly. The Sinister Sabotage not so much.
October 25, 2018 9:33 p.m.
PuddinWing No, Nightveil Predator is not JUST for Carnage Tyrant but also as a damage dealing, sticky flyer. It has Hexproof, Deathtouch, AND flies. The Hexproof part of this is super important. Hired Poisoner just gets bolted and dies, and doesn't deal any damage to anything ever.
October 25, 2018 5:01 p.m.
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