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Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#1

Haven't draw into it enough to make a decision on it. So, still in testing.

March 21, 2017 3:02 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#2

Gemstone had a couple problems for us:

  1. Our natural draw isn't where we need it to be to be able to sacrifice a card to the effect.

  2. Outside the opening hand, it's lack of colour production slows off our win

  3. We can't benefit off it from Muck or Lake

So, while it's decent for us in the opening hand, the downsides far outweighed the benefits at this time.

It is a card that we're always look at readding, but currently, unless we get some new Black mana tech from the upcoming sets, it's likely going to stay on the sidelines for now

March 21, 2017 2:11 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#3

I'm glad to hear you're having success with the deck!

I'm also testing Final Fortune, but have yet to draw it myself, so let me know if you manage to get it going.

Dragonskull Summit is probably the most straight across exchange for Blackcleave, but Gemstone will certainly work in a pinch if the stax meta is low in your pods!

March 20, 2017 7:21 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#4

Seething song, and by extension altering the land base to move heavier into mountains both came resulted in the same problem:

We end up with a lot of red mana in a deck that really only needs 1 red mana to win and RR total to support.

Extra mountains diluted our ability to acquire the massive amounts of B we needed to go off, a d weakened our muck lines.

Seething song has an similar issue in that it provides with with a healthy amount of R, but we have nothing to spend it on, while increasing our CMC.

March 16, 2017 10:51 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#5

It's neat, and something I've never thought of to include, to be honest.

I'll add it to the test log once I figure out a suitable cut, and do the math to see if I need to retool landbase to support it.

Thanks!

March 15, 2017 9:39 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#6

Hey.

I'll do a short couple sentence writeup on the card change log tonight to bring more insight into that.

You're right. Hardcasting Kiki is rough, as we often try to avoid that route when possible. it truly is our backup's backup plan, so it can be a struggle for sure.

Often when hardcast to win I turn to Adnaus and massive filtering to draw into the Redcap combo, as it can be done with more black mana for 3 total mana less than hardcasting a KIZC. Yes, it is one extra card, but with our curve, AD-Naus should get you there.

March 12, 2017 7:31 p.m.

Said on angels and demons...

#7

If you really want to move to full Graveyard fun, don't forget the following Graveyard recursion heavy hitter cards:

Entomb

Reanimate

Victimize

And if you're looking for faster, do consider dropping your top cmc cards (anything 4 mana +) down and filling the void with more mana rocks!

March 11, 2017 5:47 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#8

I'm incredibly glad to hear that! Thanks for the support!

March 9, 2017 3:59 a.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#9

For anyone following this deck, please note this last weekend saw some changes go into the deck and primer.

Please see "Why Grenzo" for a discussion of avoiding Rest in Peace and Leyline effects.

Please see "A Second Chance!" to a discussion of our hot new tech Undying Evil.

Please see the "Testing Log!" to see what's currently on the chopping block

Please see "Card Change Log" to see the big changes that occurred in the deck!

Feel free to ask me any questions here, on reddit, or on the competitiveEDH discord server.

March 7, 2017 1:32 a.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#10

Fantastic.

Also, just in case this comes up and you play on paper. There are 2 versions of Mogg Raider.

The Anthologies one, which tappedout uses (and is still purchasable) has a mana cost of RR.

The Tempest one (identical card) has a mana cost of R.

The Tempest one is the official one according to WoTC! So make sure you're running that one!

March 5, 2017 8:48 p.m.

Said on Grenzo ft. DJ ......

#11

Ender666666 - Hi Ender

Just last night I added another section that carries both of those.

Previously I just had the card test log, but those changes are becoming permanent so last night I added in the "Card Change Log!" where you can find the permanent changes to the deck!

March 5, 2017 8:39 p.m.

Needs more all forms of Xenagoat.

March 5, 2017 5:43 p.m.

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