Zada and pump spells being countered?

Asked by joeyb11223 8 years ago

Quick one here.

Let's say you have a few creatures out along with Zada, Hedron Grinder and you cast an instant pump spell, but the opponent counters it with Dispel. Does this counter it for all creatures, or only for Zada? Unsure if Zada's ability to copy the spells means the copies are still in play despite the original getting countered, or if because their dispel would be going on the stack above Zada's ability, he never gets to the copy your spell?

I'm assuming you don't get your copies though?

koylucumert says... Accepted answer #1

you get the copieszada is looking if you cast a spell and its ability triggers before the spell itself resolves. if its ability isnt countered (which is not possible in standard right now) you get the copies. just like spells with storm

December 8, 2015 2:19 p.m.

Zada, Hedron Grinder's triggered ability creates copies of the spell and puts them on to the stack for each other creature you control (that the spell can target). A triggered ability is an independent object free from its source and normally what triggered it. Even though the original spell (say Titan's Strength) is countered, the triggered ability will still copy the countered spell and give a copy to each of your other creatures.

Note: If it weren't countered, the original spell would be on the bottom of the stack, below all the copies, and resolve last. But because it was countered, the copies will resolve and that'll be it.

Also Note: The copies themselves can also be countered if desired(perhaps via another Dispel).

Informational tidbit: If an opponent were to cast Mindbreak Trap after Zada's ability resolved, he/she could exile every single one of the copies and the original, because they are all spells and/or copies of a spell on the stack.

December 8, 2015 3:30 p.m.

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