Would the legendary rule apply to these cards?
Asked by Mr.Scoops 8 years ago
I was wondering if having a Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker and a Nicol Bolas out would trigger the legendary rule. Could you cite your sources please?
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2
Note also that the legend rule is not triggered. It's a state-based action and is performed without using the stack.
November 21, 2015 1:39 p.m.
Thank you very much Busse for the information and the citation and thank you very much Epochalyptik for the terminology correction! By the way is there an all inclusive rulebook that can be purchased/that you would recommend? My buddies and I have been putting together Judges towers to hone our skills and I hate having to search a .pdf for rules and the like.
November 21, 2015 3:06 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
The rulebook isn't really something you can (or would want to) purchase. The PDF is available for free and changes with every set release. You could print it if you want, I suppose. I personally feel that a digital version is easier to search if you can ctrl+F, but that's a matter of preference.
November 21, 2015 3:30 p.m.
vampirelazarus says... #5
There are also several apps that have them included, if you have a smart phone.
MTG Familiar on Android has one, and its completely searchable.
November 21, 2015 3:38 p.m.
Thank you again Epochalyptik I had worried about using a paper copy because of new versions and updates. Also, thank you vampirelazarus I appreciate your suggestions!
November 21, 2015 4:31 p.m.
No problem man. Answering these things from the PC is much more precise (god bless copy-paste)
Here's the link to the rulings: MAGIC: THE GATHERING COMPREHENSIVE RULES
PS: Epochalyptik this was a practical example of why getting points for answering questions (as discussed a couple days ago) wouldn't be balanced: you get them all in the end hahahah
Cheers to all, mates!
Busse says... #1
No, they don't check each other for the "legendary rule" in this case because of the following:
205.3j Planeswalkers have their own unique set of subtypes; these subtypes are called planeswalker types. The planeswalker types are Ajani, Ashiok, Bolas, Chandra, Dack, Daretti, Domri, Elspeth, Freyalise, Garruk, Gideon, Jace, Karn, Kiora, Koth, Liliana, Nahiri, Narset, Nissa, Nixilis, Ral, Sarkhan, Sorin, Tamiyo, Teferi, Tezzeret, Tibalt, Ugin, Venser, Vraska, and Xenagos.
If a player controls two or more planeswalkers that share a planeswalker type, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners graveyards. This planeswalker uniqueness rule is a state-based action. See rule 704
704.5j If a player controls two or more planeswalkers that share a planeswalker type, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners graveyards. This is called the planeswalker uniqueness rule.
704.5k If a player controls two or more legendary permanents with the same name, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners graveyards. This is called the legend rule.
As you can see, Planeswalker permanents check for uniqueness within their own type and subtype (two Nicol Bolas, Planeswalkers would have the same "Bolas" subtype and one of them would be sacrificed in consequence).
Legendary permanents check uniqueness for their own name and legendary supertype. Also, when checking for supertype, type and subtype (attributes written between the art and text box), these are compared based on what's written there, not cross-checked with the name of the card (which in this case coincide partially).
Cheers!
November 21, 2015 12:59 p.m. Edited.