Would Turtleshell Changeling grow infinitly big with Plated Sliver and infinite mana?

Asked by Skywatch 6 years ago

Saw Turtleshell Changeling while searching up sliver cards.

acbooster says... Accepted answer #1

No it would not.

This is where everyone's favorite part of the rules kicks in - layers!

The way layers work is that the game defines specific groups of conditions that change the aspects of a card. The lower the number, the earlier it applies. We're looking exclusively at layer 7 here, which deals with power and toughness and is split into 5 more layers itself.

The layers apply in the following order:
1. Define P/T
2. Set P/T
3. Modify P/T without setting it
4. Counters (e.g. +1/+1)
5. P/T switching

So let's look at the situation you have. With the Turtleshell Changeling and Plated Sliver on the field, the changeling will become a 1/5. If you use its ability, it becomes a 5/1. It doesn't gain any extra from the Sliver because it already has. This is because of rule 613.5, which reads:

If an effect should be applied in different layers and/or sublayers, the parts of the effect each apply in their appropriate ones. If an effect starts to apply in one layer and/or sublayer, it will continue to be applied to the same set of objects in each other applicable layer and/or sublayer, even if the ability generating the effect is removed during this process.

This also explains why the Changeling doesn't become a 4/2 when it switches its P/T.

September 30, 2017 9:08 a.m.

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