What happens to Gerard, Weatherlight Hero if it is exiled and returned via Mimic Vat?

Asked by chosenone124 4 years ago

I have Bearer of the Heavens , Mimic Vat , Gerard, Weatherlight Hero, and a Grizzly Bear. Bearer dies.

At the end step, Bearer nukes the field. I imprint Gerard under the vat, then imprint the bear.

After this, do Gerard, Mimic Vat, and Bearer all return?

dragonstryke58 says... #1

You would not get anything back.

If you imprint Gerrard, when his triggered ability triggers, it will not be able to exile him because he left the graveyard before the ability could resolve (even if he returned to the graveyard afterward).

603.6. Trigger events that involve objects changing zones are called “zone-change triggers.” Many abilities with zone-change triggers attempt to do something to that object after it changes zones. During resolution, these abilities look for the object in the zone that it moved to. If the object is unable to be found in the zone it went to, the part of the ability attempting to do something to the object will fail to do anything. The ability could be unable to find the object because the object never entered the specified zone, because it left the zone before the ability resolved, or because it is in a zone that is hidden from a player, such as a library or an opponent’s hand. (This rule applies even if the object leaves the zone and returns again before the ability resolves.) The most common zone-change triggers are enters-the-battlefield triggers and leaves-the-battlefield triggers.

August 7, 2019 8:05 p.m. Edited.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #2

For reference, the full text of Gerard's ability: When Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero dies, exile it and return to the battlefield all artifact and creature cards in your graveyard that were put there from the battlefield this turn.

You get Mimic Vat and Bearer back on the battlefield, but not Gerard.

Unlike many other similar cards like Academy Rector , etc., Gerard's ability doesn't have an "if you do" statement that checks whether or not you actually exiled Gerard from the graveyard as part of the trigger resolving. In this example, the rule that dragonstryke58 quoted just means the "exile it" part of Gerard's ability doesn't do anything, since due to the extra zone change, the card in the graveyard right now isn't the same object that the trigger is referring to. The rest of the effect will happen normally as the trigger resolves. However, the Gerard card in the graveyard right now also isn't the same object that was put there from the battlefield this turn. The trigger won't return it.

August 8, 2019 10:29 a.m.

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